Can a prop have contrails?

Real aviation things here. News, items of interest, information, questions, etc!

Can a prop have contrails?

Postby jrpilot » Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:38 pm

When jets fly over my house sometimes they have contrails coming off there engines...well do prop aircraft have contrails...like the Dash and such commercial props?
jrpilot
Major
Major
 
Posts: 2178
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:04 pm

Re: Can a prop have contrails?

Postby Fozzer » Thu Sep 02, 2004 6:53 pm

Hi JR...!

Try this...>>>

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/class/contrail.html

Cheers... ;D...!

Paul.
Win 8.1 64-bit. DX11. Advent Tower. Intel i7-3770 3.9 GHz 8-core. 8 GB System RAM. AMD Radeon HD 7700 1GB RAM. DVD ROM. 2 Terra Byte SATA Hard Drive. Philips 17" LCD Monitor. Saitek Cyborg X Fly-5 Joystick. ...and a Briggs and Stratton Petrol Lawn Mower.
User avatar
Fozzer
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 27361
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2002 3:11 pm
Location: Hereford. England. EGBS.

Re: Can a prop have contrails?

Postby Nexus » Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:39 pm

Contrails are in general a subject to exhaust temperature and the the SAT.  Depending on winds and SAT they will be visible for a longer time.

Props tends to fly at lower altitudes where the temp. is much warmer so there is one reason you don't see contrails after props...

But if a Dash-8 would fly at FL370 it would most likely produce contrails awell.
Nexus
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3240
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:18 pm

Re: Can a prop have contrails?

Postby OTTOL » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:03 pm

I hate to be the one to point out the glaringly obvious but how many thousands of pictures have you seen with squadrons of B-17's producing contrails?

http://www.goodsky.homestead.com/files/gallery.html
Last edited by OTTOL on Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
OTTOL
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 742
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:36 pm
Location: Fintas, Kuwait (OKBK)

Re: Can a prop have contrails?

Postby Nexus » Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:02 pm

Well, I haven't seen many B-17's on photo regardless.
Last edited by Nexus on Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Nexus
Major
Major
 
Posts: 3240
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:18 pm

Re: Can a prop have contrails?

Postby OTTOL » Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:06 am

Maybe it's just me..............BUT it seems like I've seen plenty of documentaries and read plenty of books with pictures of B-17's flying high enough to create a contrail. These type of photos seem, to me, to be more common, because they dramatically illustrate the high altitudes in which the aircraft flew.
Alright.............there is ONE picture, in the group of photos on that site, of some C-130's participating in wingtip vortice studies. As far as I remember,  ::)  ALL of the other pic's are of CONTRAILS(condensation trails created by the temperature differential between the hot exhaust and supercooled moist air mass).

The problem is...........you know English too well!!!  ::)  >:(  ;D
.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
OTTOL
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 742
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:36 pm
Location: Fintas, Kuwait (OKBK)

Re: Can a prop have contrails?

Postby Hagar » Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:26 am

There seems to be some confusion over the definition of the word "contrail". I'm not sure when it was first used but I think it's comparatively recent. Trails in the sky caused by an aircraft were commonly called vapour trails during WWII (& when I was growing up in the 1950s). These famous photos show the "vapour trails" after combat over St. Paul's cathedral in London during the Battle of Britain. This was a common sight all over south-east England in the summer of 1940. They would be called contrails nowadays.

Image Image

PS. Like the B-17 photos these trails were left by conventional piston-engined aircraft. It's worth remembering that the Dash 8 is powered by turboprops which are basically gas turbines (jet engines) driving propellers.
Last edited by Hagar on Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image

Founder & Sole Member - Grumpy's Over the Hill Club for Veteran Virtual Aviators
Member of the Fox Four Group
My Google Photos albums
My Flickr albums
User avatar
Hagar
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 30864
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 7:15 am
Location: Costa Geriatrica


Return to Real Aviation

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 402 guests