Who Do You Think Would Win?

[Corsair Freak]

O.K. Here We Go

Take An F4U-1D Corsair And Put It Up Against The P-51D Mustang. Who Do You Think Would Win?

Lets See, There Both High Altitude Fighters, They Both Have "Bubble" Canopy's,

The F4U-1D Can Turn Tighter, But Then Again The P-51D Has That Laminar Flow Wing.

They Both Have The Same Armemant [Six .50 Cals]
The P-51 Has 1,695 HP Engine, But The F4U-1D Had A 2,350 HP.

What Do You Think?

I Am Asking This Because Some Sites You Go To Rave About The P-51 Being The "Best Fighter Of WWII" But If There Going By How Many Kills The F4U Came Out Too Late In The War To Make A "Huge" Impact [They Did Do A Good Job Though] And Then If You Look To See How Many Aircraft Are Still Flyable: P-51: 150, F4U: 28 You Can Kinda Tell Who The Favorite Was

Who Do You Think Would Win?

                                Brandon Buchanan8)    

[Meinas]

First of all, I would like to let you know, this comparison is completely wrong, US fighter vs. US fighter....

I'd also say, it depends on the pilots involved overall, like in car racing world, you can give a Lamborghini to an incompetent driver, and give a honda civic to {insert famous car racer} (cant think of the guy's name, famous for racing at the Indy 500), the guy with the lamborghini will loose just because he has no idea how to drive.

but.......IMO the P-51D would lay the smack-down on the pansy naval aircraft

[SilverFox441]

Wartime comparison suggests the winner would easily be the Corsair.

If you go by the number of kills...then the answer is very obvious.

No US aircraft downed more Axis aircraft than the B-17.

Best is very subjective though...

Is a Hurri or a Spit better? Spits took on the escorts and Hurris the bombers, but which was more valuable? What would have been the result of a homogenous force of Hurris or Spits?

How about the Lightning? The P-38 carried the airwar to the Axis while 'Stang was still maturing. P-38's also flew strategic bombing missions of their own. Kinda a WWII version of the phamous Phantom. Take the Recce in a '38 escorted by '38s, lead the bombers in a '38, bomb the target in '38s escorted by '38s, take the post strike pictures in a '38 escorted by still more '38s.

To me the best fighter of the war was the one the crew of a shot-up bomber saw pulling alongside as they came off target.

[Hagar]

First of all, I would like to let you know, this comparison is completely wrong, US fighter vs. US fighter....

I don't see your objection. There have been several instances of the same type of aircraft being used by opposing sides in a conflict. The country of origin means nothing.

I have no idea which one would win in this instance as they are very different types. I would think the Corsair.

[HawkerTempest5]

I don't see your objection. There have been several instances of the same type of aircraft being used by opposing sides in a conflict. The country of origin means nothing.

I think it is true that the last Spitfire lost in air to air combat was shot down by a Spitfire!

[Woodlouse2002]

I can settle this one!

The very first time I flew multiplayer in CFS2 I was flying against Scania. He was in a Mustang and I was in a Corsair. I shot him down 3 times to 0.


And the Mustang was not the best fighter of WWII.

[Meinas]

I don't see your objection. There have been several instances of the same type of aircraft being used by opposing sides in a conflict. The country of origin means nothing.
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I think its kinda of silly having allies chasing after allies, I never heard of WWII Japan, Germany, or Italy producing/buying American aircraft to fly against Americans.

[Hagar]

I think its kinda of silly having allies chasing after allies, I never heard of WWII Japan, Germany, or Italy producing/buying American aircraft to fly against Americans.

The P-51 Mustang served with some 25 different countries around the world over a period of 35 years, including China & the Soviet Union.
http://www.p51.mustangsmustangs.com/p51.shtml
It's not impossible to believe that some of these countries could have been in conflict during this time. In this event they could possibly have come up against other Mustangs or Corsairs.

the Corsair continued to serve long after the end of WW II. Corsairs served in three major wars, the Second World War, the Korean War, and with the French in Indochina (Vietnam). It also served as a carrier based fighter with the British Royal Navy during and after the war, and with the navies and air forces of a number of minor powers. In the post WW II years it was employed primarily as a ground attack fighter, a role for which it was well suited.

I believe this is the incident Tempest mentioned. RAF Spitfires being shot down by Israeli Spitfires.

on 15 May 1948 ....... two Egyptian (Spitfire) LF Mk IXs bombed and strafed Tel Aviv, one being shot down by ground fire. A few days later, the RAF's Nos 32 and 208 Squadrons were strafed at Ramat David. Later the same day, four more Spitfires attacked the airfield and three were shot down by the combined efforts of four FR.18s of 208 Squadron and the RAF Regiment's gunfire. Being the meat in the Israeli-Egyptian sandwich was not a sinecure for the RAF as was evidenced on another occasion when, during the course of a routine patrol along the border between the two countries, an FR.18 of No 208 Squadron was shot down by Israeli ground fire. While circling the crash site, the other three members of the formation were 'bounced' and shot down by Israeli Spitfires, with one RAF pilot being killed.

Spitfires operated alongside Bf-109s in the embryo Israeli Air Force, as they had earlier alongside Fw-190s in the Turkish Air Force. With the lifting of the arms embargo, Israel acquired newer types with which to re-equip. The last nation in the Middle East to operate Spitfires was Syria, which kept its F.22s until 1953.

http://www.deltaweb.co.uk/spitfire/post_war.htm

[ozzy72]

Lets just face facts, the Spitfire kicks bottom
I'm just watching Spitfire Ace (cheers Roger, I owe you some serious alcohol!), and one of the pilots of a BoB Spit. made a deeply profound comment to a German 109 pilot at a meeting "You know why you lost don't you? Because it took an a really good pilot to fly a 109, any old idiot could fly a Spitfire!"
I think this says enough about the genius of Mr. R. J. Mitchells design

Ozzy (Spitfire and marmalade guru )

[Hagar]

I'm not sure how the Spitfire came into this discussion anyway. I suppose I should know better than to ask.

On the subject of fighters coming up against other "allied" types in WWII check this out.
http://www.wwii1939-1941.com/campaigns/russia-planes.html

[Corsair Freak]

I've Gotn This Book: Corsair, The F4U In WWII And Korea By Barret Tillman And One Of The Pictures Is Of A An F4U During The Soccer Wars That Shot Down 3 Mustangs And Corsair.

It's Nice For Me To Hear That The Corsair Is Winning
Yeah Baby

For The Sptfire Vs. Hurricane: The Hurricane

[BFMF]

For The Sptfire Vs. Hurricane: The Hurricane

It really depends on the pilot

But my vote would go for the Spitfire

[Woodlouse2002]

For The Sptfire Vs. Hurricane: The Hurricane

Depends on the Mk of the Spitfire and Hurricane. The Hurricane was always able to out turn the Spitfire. And everything else for that matter...

[Corsair Freak]

It really depends on the pilot

For All Of This I Am Talking About Two Exact Pilots [To Make It Fair]

[HawkerTempest5]

Lets just face facts, the Spitfire kicks bottom
I'm just watching Spitfire Ace (cheers Roger, I owe you some serious alcohol!), and one of the pilots of a BoB Spit. made a deeply profound comment to a German 109 pilot at a meeting "You know why you lost don't you? Because it took an a really good pilot to fly a 109, any old idiot could fly a Spitfire!"
I think this says enough about the genius of Mr. R. J. Mitchells design

Ozzy (Spitfire and marmalade guru )

I think it was on Spitfire Ace that one of the BoB pilots told how he (British Spitfire pilot) was shot down by another Spitfire. I also remember reading an account by a 485 (New Zealand) Squadron pilot who, on or around D-Day, was forced to shoot down a Seafire that continued to attack him even though his own Spitfire IX was painted in full invasion stripes. I'm certain this kind of thing happened quite often. Johnie Johnson wrote in his book Wing Leader that he saw on one occasion an Fw190 shoot down a 109.
Anyhow, slightly off topic, sorry
The Corsair I'm sure is (was) a better fighter than the Mustang.
Oh and Spitfire V's Hurricane, Spitfire of course  ;D
Oh and Mark, I'll hold you to that Alcohol