What is it with Mosley?

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Hamilton 'may be negative for F1'
Motorsport boss Max Mosley has said Lewis Hamilton could have a negative effect on Formula One if he is as successful next year as he was in 2007.

"If he does the same thing next season as he's done this season, it will certainly have a big effect," he said.

"It will start to be negative because we'll get the Schumacher effect where people start writing to me saying can't you do something to slow him down."

Mosley added that Hamilton's role in revitalising F1 had been exaggerated.

     

"He has certainly helped enormously in the UK," said Mosley, the president of governing body the FIA, in an interview with the BBC's Hardtalk programme.

"He's also got a lot of interest worldwide because he's come manifestly not from a rich background. He's just made it.

"There is always somebody new. If it wasn't him it would be either [Nico] Rosberg or [Robert] Kubica or one of the other new stars, a [Sebastian] Vettel, would suddenly be the big one.

     It would be surprising if Hamilton didn't know something of what was going on [in spy-gate], but I've got absolutely no evidence that he had
Max Mosley (above)
"So I think there is a tendency to exaggerate the importance of Lewis Hamilton."

Mosley added that it was "very unlikely" that Hamilton would be installed as champion following a hearing next month into the results of the season-closing Brazilian Grand Prix.

McLaren have appealed against the decision not to punish the Williams and BMW Sauber teams for having fuel that was too cold.

If McLaren are successful in having their three points-scoring drivers excluded, Hamilton could be moved up in the results to fourth, giving him enough points to displace Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen as world champion.

But Mosley said: "It could happen, absolutely, because this will go to a court of appeal.

"It consists of very senior lawyers who are not connected with any of the countries involved in the events, so not Britain, not Italy and so on. It's an independent court. It can decide.

"That said, it's very unlikely, because even if they excluded those cars they are not obliged to reclassify Hamilton. There's absolutely no need, if they don't wish to, to change the position that Hamilton was in."

Mosley described the 2007 season as "very positive, on the whole", despite the controversies that plagued the sport, because "although the behind-the-scenes stuff was annoying for us and the people concerned, for the public it really adds to the general interest".

One of those controversies was the "spy-gate" saga, when Hamilton's McLaren team were fined $100m (

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Maybe it is:

Drugs
Senile dementia
Pompous a$$hole
Suffering a major attack of self importance
Me-Me syndrome
Brain in neutral, mouth always in 5th
Or a mixture of the above


Matt

[ozzy72]

Or more likely he is just an ignorant fascist twit like his dad and we should throw him in prison

[Craig.]

In defense of Lewis, its not his fault. Just as it was in no way Michaels fault when he was the fastest guy out there. If people want everyone going round at the same speed go watch A1GP.
That said, Lewis was by no means the fastest or most dominant driver out there. That one goes to Kimi, take out his mechanical retirements and the guy was the fastest man on the grid at just about every race(hungary and the north american races excluded), and it wont be too much differant next year I have a feeling.
All that happend was Lewis was consistant and had the luck of reliability the whole year. We can blame the FIA and their stupid points system for the fact it took so long to close the gap. Change that, make the gap from 1st place to 2nd bigger, maybe then we'll see people really fighting for the win.

[C]

Well, I suspect if other drivers were in a McLaren or Ferrari (such as Rosberg and Kubica, even JB), they'd be winning races. So Lewis' talent is not the problem - inequiality between the teams is. The only way around it would be to limit technology, its development and funding, or go the route preferred in most other Formula's and series' around the world, and have only 2 or 3 chassis manufacturers and engine suppliers (as CART was for most of the 90s)...

[Craig.]

Sorry but Formula one is supposed to be about the best manfacturers in the world competing with the best drivers in the world. Single make series are rather boring, A1GP for example. The field this year was probably as close as it ever has been. With the exception of the super aguri team, ever team on the grid next year will have financial budgets that allow for constant year long development.(unless SA get some new sponsors) So I can only see it getting closer. But as Honda/Toyota and BMW have all proved, big budget doesn't mean a winning car. You also need a decent staff.

[C]

Sorry but Formula one is supposed to be about the best manfacturers in the world competing with the best drivers in the world.

Exactly my point - and in that you have the viscious circle - and it only appears to be getting worse. 4-5 years ago you could expect 3 teams to have a decent shot at winning a GP: Ferrari, McLaren, Williams. Then Renault got their act together again, and Honda nearly got there, but Williams dropped off, and now Renault have dropped back too, and Honda went into reverse! We've got to the point that now, barring accident and extreme bad luck, only McLaren or Ferrari are able to win races with any certainty.

[Craig.]

I think if Alonso goes back to Renault, it'll certainly help to bring them right back into the action. BMW should pick up their game, they finally hired an aerodynamasist after running half the season without a dedicated head of that department.
Honda surely cant be any worse than last year, and with the ban in traction control it certainly helps Button and his driving style.

[C]

I think if Alonso goes back to Renault, it'll certainly help to bring them right back into the action. BMW should pick up their game, they finally hired an aerodynamasist after running half the season without a dedicated head of that department.
Honda surely cant be any worse than last year, and with the ban in traction control it certainly helps Button and his driving style.

Hopefully a few more people losing it too...

...which of course means little these days in the age of the Tilketarmacrunoff...

[Nelson]

We can blame the FIA and their stupid points system for the fact it took so long to close the gap. Change that, make the gap from 1st place to 2nd bigger, maybe then we'll see people really fighting for the win.

100% agree with you Craig, 10-6-4-3-2-1 .

[C]

"Exactly my point - and in that you have the viscious circle - and it only appears to be getting worse. 4-5 years ago you could expect 3 teams to have a decent shot at winning a GP: Ferrari, McLaren, Williams. Then Renault got their act together again, and Honda nearly got there, but Williams dropped off, and now Renault have dropped back too, and Honda went into reverse! We've got to the point that now, barring accident and extreme bad luck, only McLaren or Ferrari are able to win races with any certainty. "[/color]


When I started watching in '89-90 , only 1 team had ANY chance,

I think you missed my point. I was talking about 4-5 years ago, not the late 80s early/mid 90s. In any case, in 1991/2 I didn't care that Williams dominated, 'cos a certain 5 (our Nige) kept on winning.

My point was that we actually had got to a situation where several teams were almost at the point of winning regularly, but have now gone back to the one of two situation. having said that, from those 2 teams, any of the four drivers can win regularly, which is fairly novel...