When the Hamilton investigation ........

[eno]

....... isn't an investigation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 029797.stm

According to the report ...... No one has officially said there is an investigation ...... and Webber didn't report anyone for being dangerous.

[expat]

....... isn't an investigation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 029797.stm

According to the report ...... No one has officially said there is an investigation ...... and Webber didn't report anyone for being dangerous.

So the FIA have officially cleared him of an investigation that was not official and no official complaint was made...................seems someone is being rather officious somewhere

Matt

 

[C]

I wonder if someone in Spain (more probably) or Italy was trying to force and investigation...

Nice to see Vettel has had his 10 place penalty rescinded - it's not as though he did it deliberately. You can't punish someone for inexperience...

[eno]

I wonder if someone in Spain (more probably) or Italy was trying to force and investigation...

Nice to see Vettel has had his 10 place penalty rescinded - it's not as though he did it deliberately. You can't punish someone for inexperience...

I'm with the "Spanish / Italian" theory. The other thing that this incident has exposed (more than normal) is the politics that goes on behind the scenes. Hamilton has threatened to resign if the slurs continue. Personally I think that he would be better sticking to his guns and showing all the Prima Donna's of F1 how it should be done, he's done it this year .... and long may it continue.

[C]

I wonder if someone in Spain (more probably) or Italy was trying to force and investigation...

Nice to see Vettel has had his 10 place penalty rescinded - it's not as though he did it deliberately. You can't punish someone for inexperience...

I'm with the "Spanish / Italian" theory. The other thing that this incident has exposed (more than normal) is the politics that goes on behind the scenes. Hamilton has threatened to resign if the slurs continue. Personally I think that he would be better sticking to his guns and showing all the Prima Donna's of F1 how it should be done, he's done it this year .... and long may it continue.

Mind you, it would be a wake up call if Alonso ended up without a drive and Hamilton retired as World Champion at 22...

[expat]

I wonder if someone in Spain (more probably) or Italy was trying to force and investigation...

Nice to see Vettel has had his 10 place penalty rescinded - it's not as though he did it deliberately. You can't punish someone for inexperience...

I'm with the "Spanish / Italian" theory. The other thing that this incident has exposed (more than normal) is the politics that goes on behind the scenes. Hamilton has threatened to resign if the slurs continue. Personally I think that he would be better sticking to his guns and showing all the Prima Donna's of F1 how it should be done, he's done it this year .... and long may it continue.

Mind you, it would be a wake up call if Alonso ended up without a drive and Hamilton retired as World Champion at 22...

Not that he is short of a bob or two, but there are other drives he could conquer if he so chose to do so. Personally I think he is learning very fast how to play the big boys the game of FIA politics.

Matt

[Craig.]

The advantages of starting at the bottom, you get to view the politics from the outside since no one cares enough about a driver who's not winning. You use that time to learn how to handle it and play them to your advantage. Works for Alonso, works for kimi, worked for Michael. Maybe this is the smack round the head Lewis needs to bring him back down to earth. With guys like him and Kovalinen and possibly others in the future starting at the top, its a problem which will grow.

[expat]

The advantages of starting at the bottom, you get to view the politics from the outside since no one cares enough about a driver who's not winning. You use that time to learn how to handle it and play them to your advantage. Works for Alonso, works for kimi, worked for Michael. Maybe this is the smack round the head Lewis needs to bring him back down to earth. With guys like him and Kovalinen and possibly others in the future starting at the top, its a problem which will grow.

Kimi did not start at the bottom, his entry to F1 was more direct than Lewis Hamilton's. He had less experience than Hamilton, having only competed in 23 sanctioned races (one season of Formula Renault) and questions where raised by the FIA about giving such an inexperienced driver (their words not mine) a super license. He had no  more time to learn the politics than Hamilton in the same time scale.

Hamilton has raced in the British Formula Renault Winter Series, Formula Renault UK, Formula 3, Formula Three Euroseries, GP2 and then F1. I think that Hamiton is probably well aware of how the FAI works with regard to politics, he just has to learn the finer points of the F1 side. That and how to deal with the press. Ironically if the video had been of Michael and the other two had driven into each other like that, they would have been told to go away and grow up. Nothing would have been said further.

Matt

[eno]

The advantages of starting at the bottom, you get to view the politics from the outside since no one cares enough about a driver who's not winning. You use that time to learn how to handle it and play them to your advantage. Works for Alonso, works for kimi, worked for Michael. Maybe this is the smack round the head Lewis needs to bring him back down to earth. With guys like him and Kovalinen and possibly others in the future starting at the top, its a problem which will grow.

Oh Craig ....... Lewis is the one driver that doesn't need a smack around the head, he's more level headed than most on the grid and his father keeps his feet planted firmly on Terra Firma. If anyone needs the smack around the head it's those that are obviously jealous of his success and who will do anything to attempt to derail his chances, Alonso and Ferrari to name but two.

Lewis has proved time and time again how he can rise above the turbulence and produce the goods..... Pole today just proves this again.

[Craig.]

The advantages of starting at the bottom, you get to view the politics from the outside since no one cares enough about a driver who's not winning. You use that time to learn how to handle it and play them to your advantage. Works for Alonso, works for kimi, worked for Michael. Maybe this is the smack round the head Lewis needs to bring him back down to earth. With guys like him and Kovalinen and possibly others in the future starting at the top, its a problem which will grow.

Oh Craig ....... Lewis is the one driver that doesn't need a smack around the head, he's more level headed than most on the grid and his father keeps his feet planted firmly on Terra Firma. If anyone needs the smack around the head it's those that are obviously jealous of his success and who will do anything to attempt to derail his chances, Alonso and Ferrari to name but two.

Lewis has proved time and time again how he can rise above the turbulence and produce the goods..... Pole today just proves this again.

Sorry mate, but I can say I have seen a huge change from the Lewis Hamilton of GP2 first race fame, to that of his attitude now. he's walking at times a fine line between confident arrogence, and arrogently confident. The first is what you expect from any driver, the second though has come out a couple of times this season. I am happy for him if he wins the title, I just hope that he remembers the person he was at the start of the season, he needs to become ruthless yes, but he doesn't need to end up going the Alonso route and become an A*s aswell. Lewis recently asked Ron for his tropheys. We all know thats not how Mclaren works, thats arrogently confident. Ron let him keep his first victory trophey which he only does for a drivers first win, not even the drivers first win for the team.

Matt, your right in that Kimi wasn't the most experienced coming in, my mistake, but what I mean by my starting at the bottom comment, is more a Rosberg/Liuzzi/Sutil example. Start at the back of the grid teams and if your good, you will get noticed. Look at Rosberg, he is really starting to pull Williams back (obviously not on his own) but his raw driving skill is at times out performing the car. That will land him a seat in a renault or a Mclaren or Ferrari one day. Sutill maybe a toyota seat.

[Nelson]

Pole today just proves this again.

agghh.  they dont show qualy here until 1am (another 4hours), so I had avoided news.  That'll teach me for comming in here on race weekend....  ;)

so does that pole go in the record books despite McLaren not being able to score any constructors points for the whole season ?  

poles,fastest laps, wins...they cant take those away from the McLaren boys !  hahahah.  we win we win we win.  woohoo