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PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby slamshedida » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:46 pm

i have FS9.1 , and i can't get the apu to start.
i followed some tutorials , but they didnt work. i dont know why !

i load a cessna and close the mixture and magnetos and then load the PMDG from cold and dark.

i first switch the battery , then the stand by power , ground power and then when i press the APU generator , bothing happens ......

what am i doing wrong ??

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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby expat » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:42 pm

Firstly, I do not have the aircraft that you are asking for help with, however I do work on 737's and PMDG are know for getting it right in their simulatations, so the sequence that I use is as follows.

Battery on
Ground power on (leave standby power as it is)
Left wing fuel pump, either one it does not matter.
APU squib check
Fire detection test
APU start switch to on.
Wait until low oil press illuminates and no blue maint light comes on.
Move APU start switch from on to start.
APU will start.
Once running and the GCU has checked the voltage, you will get the two APU bus lights turning blue. Two lights is a hold over from the 737 Classic when it had two buses. The NG has only one bus. Either of the switches will then power the APU bus. The second switch just turns the remaining light off (left over from Classic so pilots could jump form Classic to NG without new rating)
Once you have done this, you can select your bleed etc.

I would imagine that the PMDG will follow some of this in the sim.

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2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby JBaymore » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:04 pm

Firstly, I do not have the aircraft that you are asking for help with, however I do work on 737's and PMDG are know for getting it right in their simulatations, so the sequence that I use is as follows.

Battery on
Ground power on (leave standby power as it is)
Left wing fuel pump, either one it does not matter.
APU squib check
Fire detection test
APU start switch to on.
Wait until low oil press illuminates and no blue maint light comes on.
Move APU start switch from on to start.
APU will start.
Once running and the GCU has checked the voltage, you will get the two APU bus lights turning blue. Two lights is a hold over from the 737 Classic when it had two buses. The NG has only one bus. Either of the switches will then power the APU bus. The second switch just turns the remaining light off (left over from Classic so pilots could jump form Classic to NG without new rating)
Once you have done this, you can select your bleed etc.

I would imagine that the PMDG will follow some of this in the sim.

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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby slamshedida » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:15 am

thnx for replying ,

but i think i dont have ground power in the airport ( after i switch the battery on) , the ground power light is OFF ( i think the airport doesnt have a ground power )

does any1 know which airports that have ground power ?

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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby The-Black-Sheep » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:00 am

Look below the ground power light, you'll see a little switch with the letters "GRD PWR OFF/ON" written above/below it. Hopefully that should work for you.

As expat said, turn on left fuel pump. If using APU for a long time, you can turn on left centre pump aswell...but I do believe PMDG 737 doesn't model APU fuel usage, not sure on that though

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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby slamshedida » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:06 am

yes but i already pressed that button,
what i mean is the light above taht switch which says " ground power available "
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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby expat » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:16 am

You should be able to start the APU on the battery without ground power, well you can in the real world. Are you following this for a start up, if so it should be fine. One thing though, in the real world the standby power is always in the "Auto" position, it is never turned off as in this example.

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2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby slamshedida » Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:27 am

yes im following that tutorial , but if u notice in the third pic. in that tutorial , the ground power light is illuminated , but when i play   the ground power light is not illuminated even if i switch the battery and standby power and the switch of the ground power to ON ...
u get what i mean  ??

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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby RIC_BARKER » Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:29 am

If you go to the menu bar and look under PMDG options, you will see an option for "ground power available". Check that's on, and you should see that light illuminate.

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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby slamshedida » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:01 am

@ ric_barker :

i didnt find any options regarding the Ground power.

i think i have a fault in the APU , i iwll try to send a screenshot asap.

but so far , any1 knows how to deal with APU fault ?
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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby expat » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:54 am

@ ric_barker :

i didnt find any options regarding the Ground power.

i think i have a fault in the APU , i iwll try to send a screenshot asap.

but so far , any1 knows how to deal with APU fault ?
Thnx alot


Depends what it is, but it could vary from replacing the load control valve, delta "P" sensor, the generator to the APU itself for example...........sorry we are talking about a sim ;D ;D

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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby slamshedida » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:22 am

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7325/alanb.jpg

hey thisis the screnshotfrom the overhead panel .

i think there is something wrong with the battery.
notice inthe screenshot that is turned on . plz look @ the yellow circle.

besides, the APU gen ( the blue lights are not illuminated )  @ red circles.

and if u look UP, the DC volts or Amperes reads ZERO.

can any1 hlp me plzwith the battery thing ??

thnks alott.
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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby expat » Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:57 am

[quote]http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7325/alanb.jpg

hey thisis the screnshotfrom the overhead panel .

i think there is something wrong with the battery.
notice inthe screenshot that is turned on . plz look @ the yellow circle.

besides, the APU gen ( the blue lights are not illuminated )
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2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby Jim Hodkinson » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:04 am

Hi

I must admit that I have tried the set up you describe, and I can not reproduce your problem, but I was just thinking, have you got ANY failures enabled in the PMDG drop down menu, you may not have enabled them, but I does not follow that they are not enabled, FS can be funny that way.

As for not having ground power available, can you tell me which airport and stand you are using for your tests, and when you created your cold and dark panel state, did you turn off the Cessna battery and avionics as well as the mixture and mags before loading the 737.

So if you could make a new flight and give me a step by step guide to how you set up the flight, including the airport and stand, I could try it on my system and see if I get the same or similar results, and we MAY be able to sort out what the problem is.

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Re: PMDG 737 APU help ..

Postby slamshedida » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:40 am

solved the problem ..

the FSUIPC was cracked

when i insalled a agenuine version it worked.

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