Abacus, the biggest joke in payware!

[Wing Nut]

I agree with you Felix, except for two reasons.  First, while FSDS craft are not working in FS 2004, there was and is not a notice telling me this.  Second, if you are going to sell a plane, you had better darn well support it.  If you are no longer in contact with the designer, you have no business selling his work in the first place.  Redesigning the plane in FSDS2 would not be all that hard (from what I have seen with my tinkering) and the texture files could have been re-used.  

I am not bitching about the money I spent.  It was only $10.00 and sometimes I still fly FS 2002 and will until the patch for Emma Field comes out.  Like I said,  I just think they're unprofessional.

[Felix/FFDS]

I agree with you Felix, except for two reasons.

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[d0mokun]

i dont really know what to add but, i can see both sides of the argument here.
they once tried to get me to 'sell' my h-60's to them but erik and I decided against that. for our own reasons and in that, it seems, that with the advent of gmax and 2002\ fs9 the abacus aircraft just arent cutting it.

simply put, I loved them in fs2000.
but not 2002 and certainly not fs9.

anyhow, why is it Felix always manages to say the thing everyone else is trying to say and wrap stuff up? psychic or something lol? magical powers..  ::)

[Felix/FFDS]

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anyhow, why is it Felix always manages to say the thing everyone else is trying to say and wrap stuff up? psychic or something lol? magical powers..

[Blade]

and here I thought it was my commanding 280lb presence ...

THAT TO!  ;)

[SaVas]

Being someone new to the FS9, looking for some great payware planes, the information regarding Abacus has lead me down a different path. To avoid the headaches, I shall avoid the cause. No Abacus for me

[Daz]

haha the post went from extreme aggression to everything being sorted out and explained in full.. thanks felix lol

[d0mokun]

are you stalking me Daz lol.. second post tonight.

and here was me thinking this thread was dead!

[Wing Nut]

Dan, where is your English Electric Lightning?  I looked for it and couldn't find it...

[d0mokun]

good gawd erm.. pop me an email and i'll help you find them lol.

sorta.. well.. lost the store when i went [bleep]'ing around with it.. so now its lost in the confines of SWReg.
but.. email me and i'll get onto it.

dan

[Katahu]

I have a project that is almost complete. Most of you have already heard about.

Once the full package is complete and released, there is a good chance that Abacus might try to make a deal with me because the model will have extreme detail.

If that ever happens, I will take my nice little third finger on my right hand and flip it at Abacus. If you know what I mean.

I want to release the model as freeware because I want a lot of people to have fun. And why should anyone have to pay money to a 2-bit company [or any company] just to have fun?

I just want my model to become the most detailed model in the FS world since the Jaguar [for FS2002].

[awash2002]

that is why I only buy from flgiht1 or Captian Sim I did download there FS repainter what a joke that was you could not evan paint the spinner or the prop

[SilverFox441]

You can't repaint anything on any plane that isn't already a texture. It all depends on how the original designer made the plane.

I fail to understand the heat against payware...then again I've yet to see a payware designer holding a gun to someone's head to extort money.

If you don't like Abacus' (or any other payware)...don't buy it.

[Hagar]

I'm a bit late in this discussion but here's my thoughts. I'm not the biggest advocate of Payware but will readily purchase software I like. I always liked FSDS1 & updated to FSDS2. No big deal & as I remember it cost me around $20. Not a lot when you consider the amount of pleasure its given me. FSDS was developed by Louis Sinclair, not Abacus. They simply market it for him. I have every respect for Louis as he is an FS enthusiast & supports his products with regular updates. FSDS2 is capable of doing all I want & more for both CFS2 & FS2002/4. I find it much easier to use than Gmax which is impossible for an old fogey like me to understand.

You can say what you like about Abacus & everyone is entitled to their opinions. I've dealt with them since first starting in this hobby. Their website has always been difficult to navigate but I find their customer support first class. They also have a free downloads section with many useful little utilities.
One other point. Where else in the FS Payware world can you "Try before you buy" as you can with many Abacus addons? That certainly makes a big difference to me.

[A/SGT.Mav316]

Well I can almost agree with the authors comments, this being the first time I saw this topic. Abacus can be a pain in the ass every once in awhile. But atleast they try to do right with you in the end.

Here is my experience ordering the upgrade disk from them through the mail.

Dec. 8 - placed order
Dec13 - finally acknowledged my sales receipt and claimed to have shipped it to me.
Dec.30 - got another email that they have sent it to me after my recent complaints of not receiving it.
Jan.13- Still haven't received it, asked for the shipping tracking number, none giving said it went through the USPS. So they said they would send another 2night UPS delivery.
Jan.17 - Still haven't seen it, They sent it to an old address I had with them and not even to the address I provided to them with my order.
Jan.19 - Went to the UPS in the middle of no where that took me 2 hours to find. When I got it they shipped the wrong damn disk, they sent the original FD3. Now you tell me why would I ask for an upgrade copy of the original disk!
Jan 21 - After complaining they sent me an overnight delivery to my door and corrected the order and shipping address problem. I finally got the disk and they sent me a $10 certificate and a mouse pad to smooth things over with me. How business like  >:(!

All in all after my first catapult launch in the new F14! My anger turned into a nice big grin of satisfaction. But I am still pissed at Abacus for not getting it right the first time! They should have just refunded my money and giving me a free addon coupon, then I would have been happy! That's good business!