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Newbie  have many questions???

Postby Triple_7 » Sun Sep 21, 2003 3:41 pm

i just started in the flight sim world about 2 weeks ago.  i have FS2002 Pro.  i have managed to tweek it to what i think is a resonable level.  i get frame rates of 15-20 is this good?  i have downloaded a few aircraft over the last week.  i have noticed that my my frame rates drop to 6-10 when i use a download though.  i know that isnt good.  is there a way to fix this.  one of them is a meljet 777-300  i have seen screen shots of them with the engines and all doors opened up.  how do you get them to do this???  i know how to land almost any plane on here.  i noticed on aproch the frames drop to 3 or 4 when in the cocpit.  is there any explination for this ???

What is all this about screen shots.  how do you get them.  i have tried everything and still cant get them to work. :(  is there some download that i dont know about that would let me take them.

well i think i have covered all of my questions for now but im sure there will be more. ;D
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Re: Newbie

Postby Craig. » Sun Sep 21, 2003 3:53 pm

welcome:)
for the screen shots, press the print screen button on your keyboard, pause the game open a picture program, Paint shop pro whatever you have and then click paste as new image your screen shot should appear.

to open the engine cowlings and doors and other crap, have you tried shift+e?? i havent ued the meljet 777 in a long time so i am not sure on that one.
as for the frame rates again i cant be of much help there sorry.
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Re: Newbie

Postby Smoke2much » Sun Sep 21, 2003 3:57 pm

Hello mate!

First off it is impossibele to answer your frame rate query without knowledge of your system specs.  If you let us know what you have and what settings you are running the sim at we'll be able to help a great deal more.

Some downloaded aircraft have more polygons than the stock aircraft and I believe that this can affect frame rates, there are better people to advise on this than me though.

Frame rates tend to drop in the vicinity of airports (ie take off and landing) as the sim has a lot more moving stuff todisplay in high detail.  For a smoother ride turn the grahics settings down a little and set the maximum frame rate at a lower number.

To take a screen shot you need to hit the Print Screen key on your keyboard, exit the simulator (alt+tab)and use the paste option to put the picture onto a program like MS paint.  more detailed instructions exist in the freeware screenshots forum.  You can use free programs that you can download from here (simV) to help.  I personally use YAFSCREEN, it saves your shots for you and will even scale them to a required size.

Any other questions feel free to ask, they are a good bunch around here.

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Re: Newbie

Postby Triple_7 » Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:23 pm

as for the system specs

350 Mghz proccesor
192 Mb Ram
not to sure on the graphics card i know its not very good

i knew that i wouldn't be able to keep everything at a very high level.   i dont get very good graphics but im more into the flying right now.  i hope to get i new system soon but every time i get the money i need it for something else.  oh well i guess i get one eventualy.

well thanks for the help i hope this post can help to answer a bit more.
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Re: Newbie

Postby Smoke2much » Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:34 pm

I think that the rates you are getting are very good for that system.  Try fixing the maximum framerate at 15 and you should find that your experience is more stable and less likely to dip into low single figures.  One of the biggest frame rate killers in my system is the anti-aliasing, swith this off and it will be much quicker.

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Re: Newbie

Postby gilbates » Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:46 pm

Hi triple _7 welcome mate , your gona have fun trust me and when ya get to the on-line flying bit it gets all to real , with the spec ya listed mate your doing well , that poor machine must be breathless at the end of a flight , dont forget to turn everything off ya can that runs in the background , virus scanners and the such they all eat memmory

once again welcome and feel free to ask any question , these guys are real friendly round here , and patient , jeez they put up with me so they must be  ;D ;D
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Re: Newbie

Postby ReverseThrust » Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:08 pm

WElcome to SimV!
As far as screenshots, just to add to what Craig said, There's also a great utility called GrapClipSave for screenshots- lets you take them over and over.
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Re: Newbie

Postby Scottler » Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:58 pm

Screenshots are easy, especially if you don't want to, or if you can't for whatever reason download the utility.

Press PRINT SCREEN when you want to take the shot.  Put it into your graphics editor (MS Paint will actually work for this, believe it or not) and then hit paste.  (You can do this by pressing CTRL+V.)  Bam, you're done.

There are other ways, but this is how to do it without any add ons.  lol

As for your frame rates, definitely drop your settings down a bit and see what happens.

One word of advice.  The Meljet planes are still, in my opinion, some of the finest aircraft in the world, freeware or otherwise.  They're beautiful!

However, with anything that is soooo remarkable, there's a price.  In this case, the price is paid in frames per second.  Like I've always said, nice planes eat frames.  (Well, I'll be saying that from now on anyway. lol)

Good luck!  Welcome to your new obsession!
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Re: Newbie

Postby Triple_7 » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:39 pm

im having some more trouble.  i just downloaded a great replica of the air france concorde.  it was a 13 MB piece of work.  it took me 1 1/2 hours just to download.  and then the panel is BLANK >:(.    CAN ANYONE HELP ME  :'(.  I LOVE THIS CONCORDE BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE PANEL TO GO WITH IT ::).  I have tried to download the recamended panel.  but i need to know what to do to get it to work.  is there a way that someone else can download it and get it to work with the panel   and then just send me the entire file?
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Re: Newbie

Postby Travis » Wed Sep 24, 2003 1:07 am

Was it the Air France version?  It supposedly has a full panel.  But since you asked, I'll give you an answer.  Just find a panel you like (something with the concorde gauge in it) and drop the panel folder directly into the Concorde's main folder.  Start FS and see if it works.
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Re: Newbie

Postby Craig. » Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:05 am

have you made sure all the gauge files are in the gauge folder? and that the panel.cfg file that prob came with it is in the panel folder of the aircraft?
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Re: Newbie

Postby Triple_7 » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:02 pm

ok i have officialy tryed everything that you guys have said and more   im not getting anywhere.  is there any possible way that one of you can download it and get it to work with a panel   and just send me the entire file???
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Re: Newbie

Postby gilbates » Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:37 pm

Triple_7 mate if ya ever get the White Bird of the ground i`l give ya a pat on the back mate ,

All i ever do is cut grass , trees , and buildings with it , or a couple of times i have actually got it up i just overspeed and crash

Good luck and chin up  ;D
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pclae. The rset can be a to
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Re: Newbie

Postby Triple_7 » Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:00 pm

Well ive tryed some more things.  i still dont have a panel.  and giblits   i agree that it is a pain to fly.  i think the trick is to get it up to 200 knots before you pull back   and even with the afterburners on full it takes almost the whole runnway.  you have to pull back to a little over 12 degrees to get it up and as soon as your in the air just pull up as fast as you can untill the airspeed begins to drop  then ajust acordingly.  thats how ive done it.  i would try a full flight but it would have to be manual all the way and i need the panel to transfer the fuel to where it needs to go.  

im still woundering if its possible to have someone get it to work and just send me the file.   its on FS2002 Civil Jets page 37.
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Re: Newbie

Postby Craig. » Fri Sep 26, 2003 4:04 pm

i would love to help with the panel but my family computer has fligth sim but the internet is only 56k which costs a heck of alot so i cant download huge files like concorde is.
as for takeoff speed, concorde rotates at roughly  250 knots, you need to first apply full parking brake, then full power, release brakes, then hit the burners. you'll pick up speed pretty quick. but you do need most of the length of JFk heathrow or Paris CDG to really get a safe run
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