pointer to squack box please

[gilbates]

Hi guys
having major issues with software at the momment

sb says it cannot connect to session then when thats cleared the sb window pops up saying join the fun

when i am connected i cant see any other aircraft although they show up on my TCAS

to be honest it`s getting the better of me

and when i install fsnav there is no way on earth that the session connects ever

i have done everything from changing versions of fsuipc , sb and renewing sb host

getting fed up now guys so i`l have another read of the sb forum page if only i could rem it

give me a pointer and thanks

[Scottler]

Mike-

Have you read the tutorial on the VATSIM page?  I was completely lost until I read it step by step...it helps a lot.

[gilbates]

Cheers mate

i have got so confused as to where and what everything is at the momment , i`m kinda at a loss , i have spent hours trying to get it working again and untill i do mate i`m not going to be able to fly for ya

i mean i am really lost , at my wits end

i just connected again at egll and saw no other planes , sigh , god knows what it is thats causing this hasstle

feel like screaming , just wana fly ya know

i`ll have another look where you said cheers bud

[Scottler]

Trust me, I understand your frustrations.  I spent MONTHS trying to figure out how to do it, gave up more than once, and then thought "Okay fine.  I'll read your stupid tutorial."

Turns out, if I'd read it on the first day, I would have been fine.  It explains everything perfectly clear.  (I printed it out and kept it on my desk the first few times...)

Lemme find where it is on their site and I'll re-post the info.

Hang in there.

PS...online flying isn't mandatory for us, just recommended for the fun of it!

[Scottler]

Try this...


http://www.fsfreeware.com/tutorials/SB2002/SB2002.html

[gilbates]

Thanks mate

had a look but using sb is a doddle

just cant get it too connect to a session , it finds my session but just wont join it or to be more accurate it joins it after saying it cant and then when im on the game no other planes are visible

??????????????????????????????????????

[Scottler]

Hrrrmmmm...okay.

It's a longshot, but here's what I think we should do.  When I get home from work tonight, I'll try to connect, and I'll do so while in an IM with you...just send me an email with your name, either in MSN or AIM....if you don't have either of those, let me know, and I'll see what else we can do.  I might be able to talk you through it manually...

[gilbates]

Mate thats top dollar 4 me

BUT

i was on line last night at egll and got chatting with PWA2417 long time user of FS i said i`d waite AT egll just off Rnwy 27 R which he was inbound for and watch him land , then sit and have chat about prob for a minute

well he landed in front of me , taxed , and i didnt see a thing no plane nothing , i was blind

he talked me over to park right behind him but still i saw nothing

we discussed probs for a while and i disconnected and re-connected still to no avail by now it about 1 am uk time

so i appreciate what your saying but it just wont work

Thanks kindly though

[Scottler]

Hmm...Someone here is obviously going to know how to fix this more than me, so rather than confuse you further, I'm going to  :-X and let them try to help.  It's got to be fixable.

You're not using a router by any chance are you?

[gilbates]

sob sob sob sob sob YES

BUT ( again )

before you nod wisely , i have always used this router and everything worked fine previous

it all went wrong when i updated fsuipc and installed fsnav

since then nothing i do works , uninstall , re-install , jump around , poke finger in eye , nothing

huge sigh

i think if i was a horse they`d shoot me

and to cap it all , now with the latest version of fsuipc i get the message about not registerd components or something , just to help matters

what it needs is someone to create a page with the right versions of the right software that will work together and FULL instructions on how what and why

[PH_AJH]

Gilbates man I feel sorry for you. My son's a vegetarian, otherwise I'd shoot you if you think it would help.
I'm no expert online-flying-wise (can't get it started, or can but find it so much trouble trying to understand what's going on that I gave up).

about FSUIPC: I installed the latest one as well, gave me the notes about not registered programs blabla.
Put in in the bin, reinstalled the older version et voila.
Wouldn't be surprised if there is an update/fix coming sooner or later.

Hang in there, don't go kill yourself.
There's people on this earth that care about you you know.
Cheers
AJ

[gilbates]

Thanks man

This thing has been drivin me nuts for too long now

3000 hrs reading and sorting software to 10 mins fly time

it aint adding up bud

i`m off to play footie with the kids in the garden

thanks to all

[zcottovision]

Have you read this from the VATSIM site?



Q # S-8) I can not get Squawkbox to find the Flight Simulator multiplayer session. What's wrong ?

A) This problem is frequently reported. It often occurs after installing a new network protocol (usually a new TCP protocol stack in the windows network properties). This may happen indirectly when installing software to access a new ISP from a DSL or cable modem provider.

The issue occurs because the Squawkbox program is attempting to look out on the network to access the the multiplayer session, when instead it should be looking in memory on the same computer. One method is to try and force Squawkbox to look on the same computer is to enter the fake IP address 127.0.0.1 into the address box.

Also, you may have luck switching the multiplayer session protocol setting. These are the network protocols that have been setup on your computer. Anyone with an internet connection will have TCP, but some people may have Novell's IPX or other protocols running. If you are having trouble, try selecting a different protocol.

Also, check your windows network properties (very carefully) and remove any protocol stacks that are not in use. Especially if you have recently changed or added new network access. If you don't understand what's going on there - don't touch it. You might loose a network connection.

For those who are technically minded - here are some technical details of the multiplayer process:
Flight Simulator uses the Microsoft DirectPlay game protocol, which is part of the DirectX multimedia drivers, to send aircraft info between players.

DirectPlay messages are carried over networks in a lower-level network protocol, such as TCP or IPX.
Squawkbox uses multiplayer in a different fashion than a "normal" MP session, such as one using the Microsoft Game Zone. On the Game Zone, DirectPlay messages are going out over the internet between the players, to tell each PC where each other player's aircraft is.

On VATSIM, the VATSIM server that you are connected to is sending aircraft position info - but not with DirectPlay messages, instead with VATSIM's FSD server protocol. And, the aircraft data does not go directly into Flight Sim, this info goes to the Squawkbox program running on your PC.

Your Squawkbox program then repackages the aircraft info into DirectPlay messages and sends those to your simulator. When everything is configured properly, the messages should not try and go back out on the network, since both Squawkbox and Flight Sim are running on the same machine.

[Scottler]

Additionally, several people have had problems with connecting while a router is in the mix....

Send Steve an email and he might be able to help you.  If you need his email address, let me know and I'll send it to you in an IM here...

[gilbates]

It seems that my original request for the link to the sb forum has grabbed the attention of a lot of people, people who have got the patience and good heart to help , i am still amazed at how helpful everyone is , those on the forum and also those at ATC as well as pilots on line are brilliant

I will persevere untill my problem is solved , it would be down right rude of me , not to , really

i will take this opportunity to thank you all for your help