ATC having a bad day?

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ATC having a bad day?

Postby RIC_BARKER » Fri Apr 25, 2003 4:06 am

Hi guys,

Let me explain. I had just come over from LHR, and was lined up on approach for KORD, (I'd had a gyro faliure, hence the batty PFD) when this guy streaked overhead at +200kts!

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Is this a problem anyone else has had with projectAI traffic? Overall their stuff has been really good, but their UA pilots are just plain rude!
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby Smoke2much » Fri Apr 25, 2003 4:11 am

Oops, that was one hell of a near miss.  Brown Trouser time I believe.

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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby FSTipster » Fri Apr 25, 2003 5:44 am

Heya Ric :)

I don;t think this is anything to do with Project A.I.

In my experience A.I. traffic behave in this unruly fashion all the time.

If you take a look at my recently published Leg 11 of the RTW tour, you'll see reference I made to some astonishing A.I. behaviour monitored from the TCAS radar.

The bottom line is that currently, all A.I. pilots have to be suspected aliens who's only mission in life is to wipe out all other human pilots. ;D
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby ozzy72 » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:26 am

I think its 2k2 that is the problem not project AI. I had a near miss over Paris a while back (at least I think it was a near miss but another plane got between us
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby RIC_BARKER » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:32 am

In fact over France, Spain and Italy in the summer I would expect something like this as the ATC are traditionally on strike for yet more money


Sounds about right, not that I don't think real life ATC workers don't do a good job though.  ;)
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby zcottovision » Fri Apr 25, 2003 7:34 am

Yeah.....the ATC can be funny like that if you approach too slowly, I think. I was recently cleared to land at Liverpool in my Cessna182SP and was on final when all of a sudden I had an Easyjet 737-800 fly straight over my head! I actually ducked at the computer and then felt a bit silly afterwards.....
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby Splash » Fri Apr 25, 2003 8:51 am

737-800 fly straight over my head! I actually ducked at the computer


;D Now that's realistic, or scary!!!!  Gonna have to wear a helmet "Zcottovision".  Had the same thing happen to me, Heavy came in over my head while I was landing,  I could hear it but was so intent on landing, didnt know what the heck was going on.  It was an eyepopper!!!  Didnt think a person could sweat while flying a sim!!!  lol
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby BFMF » Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:17 pm

That usually doesn't happen to me, but when it does and I wanna land first, I'll race him! ;D ;D
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby Ivan » Fri Apr 25, 2003 12:53 pm

looks like your AI does things it isn't supposed to do... and the traffic... that is stupid as you already know. they soul;d have called it 'Autodestructive Idiots' instead
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby superdog20 » Fri Apr 25, 2003 1:55 pm

This happened to me too. I was flying over the Grand canyon, when all of a sudden a 777 flew right over me
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby codered » Fri Apr 25, 2003 2:34 pm

Why do they call it a "near miss"  when two aircraft almost collide.  Wouldn't it be a 'near collision'?

Anyway, this sort of thing happens all of the time.  Even in the real world.  Although, FS doesn't play by the rules.  I think the real world rule is minimum seperation is 1000'.  Not much when you think about it.

It is for this reason why in FS I turn aircraft collision off.  Because it is a real downer when you are coming to the final of a 6 hour flight and you end up getting run over by another aircraft.
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby darkhorse » Sun Apr 27, 2003 12:54 am

Never had a problem with AI flying over me on landing.  But I notice that if you land on the runway in a chopper just before another aircraft wants to take off, they ae not cleared.  Then, As soon as you leave the runway, even if only a few feet and flying to the aircraft, they get cleared and proceed to take off with you right in their face.

Something else I noticed is that ATC doesn't like to clear AI flights for take off unless there is an hour between landings of other planes.  I'm guessing so they can go to lunch.
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby Ridge_Runner_5 » Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:23 am

Happened to me a couple days ago. I was on final to Love Field in Prescott Arizona, using real weather (really nasty wind. I turned on real weather, instantly lost 500ft!) and so Im struggling on to the runway. BTW, im in a Cessna 172. All the sudden im in spot view, and see this Moony tailgating me at a very high speed. He then declares his approach. He is told to follow me! HA! Im hitting the middle marker and he lands on the runway! I was ordered to go around, but i still landed because the wind exhausted me. I ended up barely getting over a 182S on the runway about to roll!
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby ATI_7500 » Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:01 am

i never had problems with aircraft overrunning me. but what i DEFINETLY hate is,that those AI planes need such a f****** long time to get off the runway!  >:( :P
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Re: ATC having a bad day?

Postby FSTipster » Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:15 am

[quote]i never had problems with aircraft overrunning me. but what i DEFINETLY hate is,that those AI planes need such a f****** long time to get off the runway!
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