Missing Buildings?

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Re: Missing Buildings?

Postby Beery » Fri Feb 28, 2003 7:40 am

Ah well Beery, don't let it spoil your fun, and if you're that upset, well have a crack at making the offending scenery (I've got a Nessie project under way at the moment, but on hold recently).


Unfortunately, if the problem is widespread, it will spoil my fun to a certain extent.  I had hoped to fly up the Congo and Nile on an exploratory flight through Africa.  If half of the Nile is missing, it will be more than an annoyance.  The problem with creating the scenery for the missing areas is that the joy of discovery isn't there.  When you find missing scenery and have to create it, finally flying over it has its positive side, but it's not the same joy as finding a new and unexpected scene for the first time.

Anyway, I guess I'm going to have to get involved in scenery creation.  Does anyone know what the best program is for creating new buildings, etc.?
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Re: Missing Buildings?

Postby ozzy72 » Fri Feb 28, 2003 7:59 am

I'm trying to do it with gmax (and the headaches are terrible).
Try popping down to the design forums for help. And think of it this way, you might not have that brief moment of joy of discovery, but you will have the satisfaction of being able to say "I made that", and then sharing it with others to make their simming experience that bit better. ;)

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Re: Missing Buildings?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:08 am

I'm never one to defend M$, but if all the plolitical and geographic landmarks for the entire planet were included,, FS2002 would be something like a 30 CD program prob costing $1,000 or more. And you'd still have people upset  ;)
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Re: Missing Buildings?

Postby BFMF » Fri Feb 28, 2003 10:49 am

Why not focus on the positive then the negative?

Remember FS5? MS has come a long way!
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Re: Missing Buildings?

Postby Beery » Fri Feb 28, 2003 11:38 am

...if all the political and geographic landmarks for the entire planet were included, FS2002 would be something like a 30 CD program prob costing $1,000 or more...


I'm not suggesting for one second that MS should include ALL the political and geographic landmarks.
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Re: Missing Buildings?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:12 pm

Beery,, I agree,, really I do,, and noone will ever know what criteria or priority M$ put on "scenic wonders",, modeled or otherwise.

I do think, though,, that in the big picture,, the people who buy each version of the sim as it is released,,and actually use it on a regular basis (not the people who buy it as an "ooh-ahh" video game,, and quit when they realize there are no high-scores or kill tallies) only go to the famous scenery areas, once in a blue moon.  And mostly out of curiosity. (I can't remember the last time I flew by Niagara).

I'd gladly trade all the "ooh-ahh" scenery for better/more-accurate roads for dead-reckoning navigation. Or make even the biggest cities no more than a cluster of buildings (no specific landmarks) in exchange for better weather.

I guess you could make my version: "US North-East, roads & weather FS2002"    ;)

Think Billy's listening   ::)
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Re: Missing Buildings?

Postby Beery » Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:14 pm

It's especially ironic that the world's largest waterfall is not included in the game.  In the words of Brett Pretorius, Director of African Travel Gateway in South Africa:

"There are few appropriate superlatives that have not already been applied to this magnificent natural wonder of the world; in many ways it defies description. So vast are the Falls and their setting that it is difficult to grasp their true grandeur and for this reason, they are perhaps best seen from the air. "

Hmmm.
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Re: Missing Buildings?

Postby Beery » Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:26 pm

...I'd gladly trade all the "ooh-ahh" scenery for better/more-accurate roads for dead-reckoning navigation. Or make even the biggest cities no more than a cluster of buildings (no specific landmarks) in exchange for better weather.


Then I guess we approach the game with different viewpoints.  I only get in my Cessna in order to fly by famous landmarks or make trips to interesting sights or cities.  Navigation bores me, and the weather and clouds are more than adequate from my perspective.  I would make the exact opposite choices to those you would make.  The good thing about the sim is that, given the scope for creating scenery, and given MS's commitment to slooowwwlly making the game ever more realistic, we can each (eventually) get what we want.  I just wish that MS could have been a bit more evenhanded with what they decided to pay attention to when building this latest version of the game.  Then perhaps I wouldn't have to learn how to create a thousand miles of river and the world's largest waterfall myself (don't get your hopes up folks - I think such work is way beyond my talents).  That would leave me plenty of time to create minor buildings and favourite haunts around the towns I've visited in real life.
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