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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby Ang2dogs » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:06 pm

I'd tell the entertainment industry (the largest driving force behind these bills, for obvious reasons) to stuff it......


I got a better idea, maybe we should all stop buying music, movies, games and the like for at least 1/2 a year to send a message that honest people don't like to be punished.

Anyone remember the days when you made a mixed tape for your friends. Or copied songs off the radio,which usally had the dj or radiostation partly at the beginning and than at the end of the song so you never got a perfect recording but it was ok.

Sure dosen't seem like the artis and the
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby andy190 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:18 pm

[quote]I just thought of an interestign thing.
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby machineman9 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:50 pm

[quote]I just thought of an interestign thing.
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby Cessnaporsche01 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:58 pm

As to the influence of this legislation worldwide, while I'm sure that the US government, in its all consuming need to mind everyone else's affairs, will eventually try to force the rest of the world to pass similar legislation, if, of course, these bills pass, the international conflict is more immediate. SOPA and PIPA will have full effect on American companies, and a significant effect on foreign companies that operate in America. This means that, on the most noticeable level, sites like YouTube, Facebook, and Reddit, who operate in American territory and under American law could be forced to shut down large pieces of their sites, if not the site entirely, for the trespassings of a single user. This effect would be international, and, given the number of businesses that rely so heavily on large media sites, could have a profound effect on the global economy, an effect that I am beginning to doubt the members of Congress pressing for these bills (many of whom admitted in recorded debates to not knowing much about how the internet, or even computers function) have even bothered to imagine. What is more, it has already been demonstrated (by Universal, I believe, though I may be wrong; when they managed to place a DNS block on MegaUpload, a German site, for all locations in America, its territories, and Iraq) that the power given to corporations by these bills will allow them to do to America, exactly what Americans have been criticising the Chinese government for doing; namely, censoring the internet to the point where all available material is regulated.

In any case I can only see this legislation as doing significant harm to the world at large, economically, technologically, and, yes, even culturally. I can't imagine that anyone in support of this has evaluated the far reaching consequences, and I know that should it be enacted, this would only cause to create huge inconvenience, loss of freedom (something most Americans are rather opinionated about), and social unrest, while any pirate worth his salt will be able to continue on doing what he'd been doing.


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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby machineman9 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:20 pm

I am beginning to doubt the members of Congress pressing for these bills (many of whom admitted in recorded debates to not knowing much about how the internet, or even computers function) have even bothered to imagine.

Two questions:

1) How does one join congress?
2) How are they able to join and create new laws on things that they have no idea about? Intelligence dictates that only people who have a clear grasp of a concept and know both sides of the story (and have no influence) should be allowed through the front doors to vote at all. When you're sick and dying, you call the ambulance service, because they know what they're doing. There's no point in having a TV repair man come along.
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby Xpand » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:35 pm

This scares me and I'm not even in the US:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8 ... AAAAAAADAA
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby Hagar » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:12 am

Two questions:

1) How does one join congress?
2) How are they able to join and create new laws on things that they have no idea about? Intelligence dictates that only people who have a clear grasp of a concept and know both sides of the story (and have no influence) should be allowed through the front doors to vote at all. When you're sick and dying, you call the ambulance service, because they know what they're doing. There's no point in having a TV repair man come along.

1. They're elected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress

2. Like all politicians they need no qualifications. As a colleague used to say of our MPs: "It's the highest paid unskilled job in the country."
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby jetprop » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:16 am

wait i just relised:

what about hackers?
i imagine that some hackers WILL hack into SOPA one day and block it.

so,maybe in the future that would be the first hacker to be loved. ;D
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby hyperpep111 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:59 pm

Two questions:

1) How does one join congress?
2) How are they able to join and create new laws on things that they have no idea about? Intelligence dictates that only people who have a clear grasp of a concept and know both sides of the story (and have no influence) should be allowed through the front doors to vote at all. When you're sick and dying, you call the ambulance service, because they know what they're doing. There's no point in having a TV repair man come along.

1. They're elected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress

2. Like all politicians they need no qualifications. As a colleague used to say of our MPs: "It's the highest paid unskilled job in the country."

These are the times that I believe the Governments should stick to things they know about. Like building benches in the park :D and stay off the things like the internet.
I'm scared, and I'm so far from America. Because our Beloved SimV and most of other the wonderful Flightsim fan sites are hosted In the US. :( What happens when Microsoft eventually decide to report all the flightsim sites for copyrighted? They can be taken down without due process. >:(. No more social netwporking, online shopping e.t.c

wait i just relised:

what about hackers?
i imagine that some hackers WILL hack into SOPA one day and block it.

so,maybe in the future that would be the first hacker to be loved. ;D


Exactly.
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby Fozzer » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:01 pm

...and so it goes on...>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369

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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby machineman9 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:19 pm

...and so it goes on...>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369

Paul.

They were sued and DNS blocked by Universal last month, but then some music artists retaliated (and created a song/music video under license by Megaupload, and had Megaupload put it on Youtube), Universal took the video down under 'copyright infringement'.


Guess what, there was no copyright infringement, none at all. But Youtube took down the video. They later re-evaluated the case and thankfully put the video back up. Apply SOPA, and Youtube type sites could have been taken offline just like that.


Talk about 'false incrimination'. Universal, thankfully, are facing charges of 'false ownership' by claiming they owned rights to the video. Justice? Lets hope so.


I would be interested in knowing how Megaupload, a Hong Kong site, was shut down by the US though. I cannot access it in the UK, which is effectively world policing. Unless Megaupload decided to take themselves offline, but I'm not so sure.



Also, Wikipedia edits are great... A government page is now entitled: US Department of "Justice", and they changed the main icon to a SOPA takedown image.  ;D
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby jeffro3006 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:44 pm

Sorry for being the newbie posting on this but I saw this and couldn't help myself...I still use the site, just never got into the whole forum thing... :P

My whole take on it is that it seems that my fellow citiznes in office have forgotten what our fathers founded our country on...the idea of freedome of what to do and individual rights and property!

If I use some logo or other intellectual property, and the owner doesn't like it, then let the owner take responsibilty of their property on their own if they care so much! It seems that we as a country have shifted our governement's role from brother to father...

Just some thoughts that me and my dad had brought up in a conversation...
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby Webb » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:17 pm

No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law ...

That's soooo inconveniently 18th century.
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby Steve M » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:33 pm

A quote I took from an OMG article..


The author of the internet-censoring SOPA bill would be in violation if it were to pass! Lamar Smith is a congressman from Texas and the author of the Stop Online Piracy Bill. We've covered SOPA before (here, and here).

As you've probably heard, most internet companies are in an uproar about the restrictive nature of this legislation, which would put the US on par with the most restrictive regimens in the world when it comes to the internet.

The website Vice did some investigating, and they found that the congressman's website is using a photo without the consent of the man who took the photograph. This means that under the rules of SOPA, the photographer could order Internet service providers to block the congressman's website for violating his copyright!

We know we've been harping on this, but it's important that everyone recognizes how bad this legislation is for the average internet user.

8-)
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Re: SOPA-Stop Online Piracy Act feedback.

Postby Fozzer » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:55 pm

A quote I took from an OMG article..


The author of the internet-censoring SOPA bill would be in violation if it were to pass! Lamar Smith is a congressman from Texas and the author of the Stop Online Piracy Bill. We've covered SOPA before (here, and here).

As you've probably heard, most internet companies are in an uproar about the restrictive nature of this legislation, which would put the US on par with the most restrictive regimens in the world when it comes to the internet.

The website Vice did some investigating, and they found that the congressman's website is using a photo without the consent of the man who took the photograph. This means that under the rules of SOPA, the photographer could order Internet service providers to block the congressman's website for violating his copyright!

We know we've been harping on this, but it's important that everyone recognizes how bad this legislation is for the average internet user.

8-)


..this is the very dangerous bloke of which we speak?...>>>

http://www.texasinsider.org/?p=57474

"Smith is a Christian Scientist. His wife, Elizabeth Lynn Schaefer, is a Christian Science practitioner and teacher".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science

... ;)... ;)...!

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