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Chinook down

Postby expat » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:05 pm

I have placed this in "General" and not "real aviation" because the story has the potential to be about more than an aircraft crash.

It will most probably, no WILL be the food of thought on every conspiricy website on the WWW, but it would appear that Seal Team Six of Bin Laden fame or members of the team have been killed in said crash/shoot down. Now some would say that ties up all loose ends in the Bin Laden story for those who believe that he is still at large or such ::)  ::)

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Re: Chinook down

Postby 1olehippy » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:24 pm

HOORAY for the CIA  :o too bad we can't elect them :'(
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Re: Chinook down

Postby ozzy72 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:07 pm

I just feel for the families who have lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy :'(
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Re: Chinook down

Postby BigTruck » Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:39 pm

:'(  Some gave all.
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Re: Chinook down

Postby Webb » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:01 pm

[quote] Now some would say that ties up all loose ends in the Bin Laden story for those who believe that he is still at large or such ::)
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Re: Chinook down

Postby expat » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:01 am

I just feel for the families who have lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy :'(


You are quite right, but some will always try and make a profit from such a tragedy.


[quote][quote] Now some would say that ties up all loose ends in the Bin Laden story for those who believe that he is still at large or such ::)
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Re: Chinook down

Postby hyperpep111 » Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:20 am

Sad :'(. Conspiracy theorists really annoy me >:(. But I wonder what caused the accident

Officials, witnesses and the Taliban have said the Chinook was shot down by insurgents during a combat mission.

The helicopter went down in a district of Wardak province, west of Kabul, early on Saturday.

The presence of at least 17 of the Seals has led to speculation that they were involved in a highly significant operation, such as targeting a high-ranking figure in the insurgency.
Read more (BBC  ::). Oh boy. ::)
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Re: Chinook down

Postby Webb » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:38 pm

Airstrike Kills Taliban Militants Who Shot Down Helicopter

[quote]The commander of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan says an airstrike has killed the militants responsible for last week's helicopter crash that killed 38 Americans and Afghans ...

General John Allen told reporters at the Pentagon via videoconference Wednesday that a coalition air raid killed the Taliban insurgents responsible for bringing down the helicopter in Wardak.

In a separate statement, NATO said the precision airstrike Tuesday killed Taliban leader Mullah Mohibullah and the insurgent who "fired the shot associated with" the downing of the CH-47 helicopter in the Tangi Valley.
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Re: Chinook down

Postby expat » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:02 am

I bet the conspiracy nuts are wetting themselves at this. The only one left alive is the guy who keeps being airbrushed out of the White House pictures, and then appears back again, Mr "Yellow Tie"  ;D ;D

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Re: Chinook down

Postby TacitBlue » Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:07 pm

I've heard some people say that this was a calculated strike by the Taliban and that they did it to get the team who killed Bin Laden. My question is, how would they know who was on the helicopter? Even if they knew, then they must have known that the SEAL "Team Six" members aboard were not the same people who were involved in the Bin Laden raid. More than likely the Taliban guys pointed to the horizon ans said "Hey, here comes an American helicopter. Quick, get the rocket launcher!" ::)
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Re: Chinook down

Postby BigTruck » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:26 pm

They knew the route that American choppers would take into the battle zone and out of the battle zone.  It was orchestrated so that the initial firefight would have the rangers calling in for backup (the chopper) and while the backup was helping secure the first scene, the taliban were setting up the ambush knowing that the chopper would be returning through that valley.

They had no way of knowing who was on the chopper, they just knew it was American.
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Re: Chinook down

Postby Webb » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:36 pm

So the US military has learned nothing since Mogadishu, 1983 (Black Hawk Down)?

Don't fly predictable routes!

Especially helicopters!
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Re: Chinook down

Postby BigTruck » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:43 pm

Not much choice in much of those areas of high terrain in Afghan.  Those combat loaded choppers don't fly that high, especially in high altitude terrain.  They have to utilize valleys.
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Re: Chinook down

Postby Webb » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:55 pm

Good strategy, then.  The same way Ho Chi Minh won his war.

What do you think they will rename Kabul - Osama bin Laden City?
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Re: Chinook down

Postby Club508 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:20 am

[quote]Not much choice in much of those areas of high terrain in Afghan.
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