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Re: New Bloke!

Postby murjax » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:03 am


LOL, thanks. I'm home-educated (I don't go to school), therefore I'm around adults more than kids. Therefore I act like an adult...!
Hehe, I am too. And you know what? I act like an adult too.
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Hagar » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:13 am

Welcome to the forum.

I'm home-educated (I don't go to school), therefore I'm around adults more than kids. Therefore I act like an adult...!

Hehe, I am too. And you know what? I act like an adult too.

I find this a tad worrying. I know I'm a silly old fool but it seems to me that kids grow up far too quickly these days. You're only young once so please make the most of your youth while you can.

I tried being an adult once. Didn't like it so went back to being a kid. It's much more fun. :P [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] :D

PS. I'm a 64 year-old granddad & enjoying every minute. 8-)
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Saitek » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:15 am

LOL, thanks. I'm home-educated (I don't go to school), therefore I'm around adults more than kids. Therefore I act like an adult...! And BTW, rottydaddy, the disc of my FS2004 has the DVD symbol on it. Not DVD-ROM, CD-ROM, but DVD.  :-/


Nice to hear that. Well done. :)


How home-educated people survive...is a mystery to me


ahh how I have had that so many times.

They are actually very successful. :)


Someone knows the truth. ;)

I was pulled from school when I was 9, my sisters were 7 and 6. I am now at a good university in Scotland studying an MA (hons) in accountancy and finance. My sister is at the same doing law (at only 17!) at the same uni which is the top best in Scotland for the subject.
There are some dumb homeschoolers around for sure, but I can tell anyone that for every 1 dumb homeschooler there are 100 idiots in school. It is recognised that homeschoolers come out better educated and end up with better jobs that those in schools. I know LOTS of homeschoolers to prove that is correct. I can't figure why some countries in Europe have made it illegal.

But as someone already commented here - you don't see many 13 year olds that can write a decent post these days.
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Hagar » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:46 am

How home-educated people survive...is a mystery to me


ahh how I have had that so many times.

They are actually very successful. :)


Someone knows the truth. ;)

There are some dumb homeschoolers around for sure, but I can tell anyone that for every 1 dumb homeschooler there are 100 idiots in school. It is recognised that homeschoolers come out better educated and end up with better jobs that those in schools. I know LOTS of homeschoolers to prove that is correct. I can't figure why some countries in Europe have made it illegal.

I think NDSP is referring to survival in the big wide world rather than academic success. I feel that learning to interact with your peers is a very important part of education which can only be learned at school. There is also the self-discipline involved in getting up in the morning & getting to school on time whatever the weather is like. I can't see how you can do any of that by deliberately withdrawing from society. You seem to have adapted well Ben so maybe my fears are unfounded.

But as someone already commented here - you don't see many 13 year olds that can write a decent post these days.

It's nice to see but these skills can be taught at home whether you're home-schooled or not. That will all depend on the parents & the child's willingness to learn. My daughter could read & write before she ever went to school.
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Bluesky737 » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:08 pm

Actually, my parents don't teach us (me and my sister) very much. I just use the internet/library/TV and generally learn for myself. However, how a wing works and how a jet engine works are still total mysteries to me...!
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Hagar » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:17 pm

Actually, my parents don't teach us (me and my sister) very much. I just use the internet/library/TV and generally learn for myself.

Interesting. Do you work to a timetable or study when you feel like it? I assume you still have to take tests, exams & suchlike to check on your progress. What happens if you don't understand something? Supposing your parents don't know either?

However, how a wing works and how a jet engine works are still total mysteries to me...!

If you look in the Flight School section of this forum you will see that how a wing works is a complete mystery to even the 'experts'. ;)
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Saitek » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:17 pm

I think NDSP is referring to survival in the big wide world rather than academic success. I feel that learning to interact with your peers is a very important part of education which can only be learned at school. There is also the self-discipline involved in getting up in the morning & getting to school on time whatever the weather is like. I can't see how you can do any of that by deliberately withdrawing from society. You seem to have adapted well Ben so maybe my fears are unfounded.

It's nice to see but these skills can be taught at home whether you're home-schooled or not. That will all depend on the parents & the child's willingness to learn. My daughter could read & write before she ever went to school.


I can happily say your fears unfounded. I admit it is what would be expected, but experience has shown that isn't the case. The amount of people the schools turn out that can't interact with other people and that cannot read or write properly is so bad in the UK that there really isn't room for people to say that schools will surely provide these skills. I have been to school and I have been homeschooled - for successful homeschooling the discipline is ten times that needed for school. Everything is much harder to do; my parents never took me out of school because it was the easy route. I am not alone or an exception, I believe I represent most homeschoolers. I think the difference needs to be made between those that don't go to school (truant) and those that homeschool. [ch65532]

As I indicated I know many many homeschoolers personally and most are extremely successful. I do know though that my local schools are just churning out thugs, criminals and an awful lot of society's scum. In the words of one of a head teachers even 15 years ago back in Oxford to my parents when they were first looking for a school for me; pointing to her class she said "most of those will end up in prison some day". LEA (Local Education Authority) inspectors on inspecting our progress said we were well above the schools and credited my Mum for how much we knew - and my Mum never even did A-levels.
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Hagar » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:37 pm

I think NDSP is referring to survival in the big wide world rather than academic success. I feel that learning to interact with your peers is a very important part of education which can only be learned at school. There is also the self-discipline involved in getting up in the morning & getting to school on time whatever the weather is like. I can't see how you can do any of that by deliberately withdrawing from society. You seem to have adapted well Ben so maybe my fears are unfounded.

It's nice to see but these skills can be taught at home whether you're home-schooled or not. That will all depend on the parents & the child's willingness to learn. My daughter could read & write before she ever went to school.


I can happily say your fears unfounded. I admit it is what would be expected, but experience has shown that isn't the case. The amount of people the schools turn out that can't interact with other people and that cannot read or write properly is so bad in the UK that there really isn't room for people to say that schools will surely provide these skills. I have been to school and I have been homeschooled - for successful homeschooling the discipline is ten times that needed for school. Everything is much harder to do; my parents never took me out of school because it was the easy route. I am not alone or an exception, I believe I represent most homeschoolers. I think the difference needs to be made between those that don't go to school (truant) and those that homeschool. [ch65532]

As I indicated I know many many homeschoolers personally and most are extremely successful. I do know though that my local schools are just churning out thugs, criminals and an awful lot of society's scum. In the words of one of a head teachers even 15 years ago back in Oxford to my parents when they were first looking for a school for me; pointing to her class she said "most of those will end up in prison some day". LEA (Local Education Authority) inspectors on inspecting our progress said we were well above the schools and credited my Mum for how much we knew - and my Mum never even did A-levels.

I'll admit that you have the advantage on me there Ben as I don't know anyone that was home-schooled, except for a few members of this forum. I'd never heard the word until a few years ago. What I do know is that in the real world you have to learn to cope with all types of people, some of whom you might dislike intensely. You also have to do things you would prefer not to, like getting up on a cold, dark morning & going out in the pouring rain to get to school on time. I still feel that these things can only be learned at school.

I realise that there are some bad schools around but I can't believe the situation is as bad as you say. There are several schools near me & the majority of the students are polite & well-behaved. There are a few bad apples but most of the kids around here are decent enough. Depends how you treat them I suppose. I don't expect them to be angels & they get up to mischief in the same way that my friends & I did over 50 years ago. Things haven't changed that much, thank goodness. ;)
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Saitek » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:45 pm

I faced that question Doug ever since I left school as have my siblings and many of the homeschoolers I know. It's a great mystery to us all and one I never exactly understood. You don't need to go to school to socialise, have friends outside your family or get up at X o clock to go to a school and sit in a classroom. :-/
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Fozzer » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:46 pm

There are several schools near me & the majority of the students are polite & well-behaved. There are a few bad apples but most of the kids around here are decent enough. Depends how you treat them I suppose. I don't expect them to be angels & they get up to mischief in the same way that my friends & I did over 50 years ago. Things haven't changed that much, thank goodness. ;)


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Re: New Bloke!

Postby murjax » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:49 pm

I think NDSP is referring to survival in the big wide world rather than academic success. I feel that learning to interact with your peers is a very important part of education which can only be learned at school. There is also the self-discipline involved in getting up in the morning & getting to school on time whatever the weather is like. I can't see how you can do any of that by deliberately withdrawing from society. You seem to have adapted well Ben so maybe my fears are unfounded.

It's nice to see but these skills can be taught at home whether you're home-schooled or not. That will all depend on the parents & the child's willingness to learn. My daughter could read & write before she ever went to school.


I can happily say your fears unfounded. I admit it is what would be expected, but experience has shown that isn't the case. The amount of people the schools turn out that can't interact with other people and that cannot read or write properly is so bad in the UK that there really isn't room for people to say that schools will surely provide these skills. I have been to school and I have been homeschooled - for successful homeschooling the discipline is ten times that needed for school. Everything is much harder to do; my parents never took me out of school because it was the easy route. I am not alone or an exception, I believe I represent most homeschoolers. I think the difference needs to be made between those that don't go to school (truant) and those that homeschool. [ch65532]

As I indicated I know many many homeschoolers personally and most are extremely successful. I do know though that my local schools are just churning out thugs, criminals and an awful lot of society's scum. In the words of one of a head teachers even 15 years ago back in Oxford to my parents when they were first looking for a school for me; pointing to her class she said "most of those will end up in prison some day". LEA (Local Education Authority) inspectors on inspecting our progress said we were well above the schools and credited my Mum for how much we knew - and my Mum never even did A-levels.

I'll admit that you have the advantage on me there Ben as I don't know anyone that was home-schooled, except for a few members of this forum. I'd never heard the word until a few years ago. What I do know is that in the real world you have to learn to cope with all types of people, some of whom you might dislike intensely. You also have to do things you would prefer not to, like getting up on a cold, dark morning & going out in the pouring rain to get to school on time. I still feel that these things can only be learned at school.
I believe that one can be learned later in life when it's time to go to work.

As for the rest, I believe that everyone has a different opinion and that is just fine.
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Fozzer » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:55 pm

I believe that one can be learned later in life when it's time to go to work.



..an example of "Home Schooling"..... ::)....?

A) I believe that one can be learned later in life when it's time to go to work..... >:(....!

B) I believe that one can be taught later in life when it's time to go to work..... 8-)....!

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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Hagar » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:59 pm

I believe that one can be learned later in life when it's time to go to work.



..an example of "Home Schooling"..... ::)....?

A) I believe that one can be learned later in life when it's time to go to work..... >:(....!

B) I believe that one can be taught later in life when it's time to go to work..... 8-)....!

Paul.... ;)...!

I think Murjax was correct. He's the one doing the learning. :P

However, I also think that the sooner these things are learned the better. It's a tough old world out there & someone already having learned these important skills might well beat you to it. ::)
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby ozzy72 » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:11 pm

I have to say I was comfortable with home schooling when I lived in Australia as a kid. I felt I made far better progress than when I was in school. I liked the system there of being on the end of a radio and then spending the afternoon on the farm shooting snakes and finding weird animals for my great uncle 8-)
Now as a teacher I'm terribly pro-home schooling as it means I don't have to be locked in a classroom full of wild animals :o ;D If it wasn't for students then teaching would be the most perfect job in the world 8-)
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Re: New Bloke!

Postby Saitek » Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:24 pm

You should try being a lecturer at a uni. The students behave there (most of the time).
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