How Big Is Our Universe?

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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby beaky » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:53 am

If you ever see it, consider that that light has taken over 2 million years to reach your eye...!!!   :o



It makes you feel really small. It's all very impressive these big stars in our galaxy and I know that it is unbelievably large. We will never be able (?) to reach the end of it. We might build a telescope that can see very far into space but that is it. But what I would like to know is, what is beyond the galaxy? If it ends somewhere, what is behind it? Nothing? Another galaxy? Is this (in our eyes) very large galaxy just a piece of dust for something (someone) else?

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Our galaxy is one of many... since our system is near the fringe of our home galaxy, we can look outward and see many, many more. As I said, M31, aka the Andromeda Galaxy, is visible to the naked eye if the sky is very dark... it looks like a faint smudge of light. But with a decent scope, it is clearly a huge swirling mass of billions of stars. It is believed that our galaxy is similar in shape and size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_Galaxy


We're also rather fortunate that there are about 30 other galaxies within a mere 30 million light-years of our own... pretty easy to see with most telescopes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Group

But many, many more have been seen... and some are extremely far away.

Beyond that...? Who knows? Probably more of the same... large and small clusters of stars, huge blobs of gas and dust... black holes, etc... considering how much empty space there is out there, there's an awful lot of stuff.

I've always been annoyed by attempts to determine the size of the universe, since "universe" means "everything that is". If therer is a limit to "everything there is", what lies beyond it? Nothing?
Isn't a lot of nothing part of "everything"? I don't get it.

But there is a limit to what we can detect right now with the available technology.
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby murjax » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:56 am

[quote][center][size=12]Ok, so how big is our planet Earth?
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:01 am

I thought Andromeda was the nearest galaxy. By the way, Andromeda is destined to collide with the Milky Way in about 3 billion years from now.


Are there already insurances covering that? ;D
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby Jakemaster » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:04 am

[quote][quote]And the nearest galaxy, M31, one of the largest if not
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:35 am

Sean, i am aware of the many galaxies in the universe. Thanks for the Wiki links anyway. What I meant to say was, what is beyond the universe? I suppose it has to end somewhere bilions and billions of lightyears away. And then what? Another one? A parallel universe that is the mirror image of this one? One thing is sure, we will probably never know.

Another question that intriges me is the one people wonder about for a long time. Are we alone? Probably not considering there are millions of planets in solarsystems like ours. Will we ever meet them and if so what will happen then?

Crash ;) (too many questions for 1 small brain....)
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby dcunning30 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:50 am

[quote][quote]And the nearest galaxy, M31, one of the largest if not
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby Fozzer » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:26 pm

Comparing sizes....

Have you noticed that Pluto, Mercury, Venus, and Earth will all fit in Uranus.... ;)...

...even Neptune, if push came to shove!... :o...!

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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby TacitBlue » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:52 pm

Comparing sizes....

Have you noticed that Pluto, Mercury, Venus, and Earth will all fit in Uranus.... ;)...

...even Neptune, if push came to shove!... :o...!

Paul... :)...!

...sorry... :-[...!



I wouldn't like to be the first man to set foot on Uranus... Thankfully, that's impossible. After sending a probe deep into Uranus, scientists learned that Uranus contains mostly gas. It would explain the enormous clouds surrounding Uranus.

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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby Stormtropper » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:55 pm

If there is ANYTHING larger than my ego in this galaxy I want it caught and shot immediately!


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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby Katahu » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:20 pm

If there is ANYTHING larger than my ego in this galaxy I want it caught and shot immediately!


Unless you challenge God on a regular basis, I got you beat ;D


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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:09 pm

If there is ANYTHING larger than my ego in this galaxy I want it caught and shot immediately!


Unless you challenge God on a regular basis, I got you beat ;D


Since I am God, I'm gonna win anyways, sooooo...
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby beaky » Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:07 am

And the nearest galaxy, M31, one of the largest if not  brightest distant objects in the night sky,


I thought Andromeda was the nearest galaxy. By the way, Andromeda is destined to collide with the Milky Way in about 3 billion years from now.

http://www.cita.utoronto.ca/~dubinski/tflops/



M31 is Andromeda.  Actually, Andromeda is the nearest large galaxy.  The large and small magellenic clouds are the nearest.  As Andromeda is a spiral, the magellenic clouds are diffused galaxies.  They are in the southern hemisphere.  And I'm told they are easier to spot with the naked eye than Andromeda.  I found Andromeda with the naked eye and it wasn't easy for me.  If you don't have totally dark skies (no moon, no street lights, no sky glow) you can forget about it.  And you definately need to use averted vision to study the smudge!     8-)


D'oh... you're right. The Andromeda galaxy is the nearest spiral galaxy... I tend to forget about the Magellanic clouds because I've never seen 'em.

And yes, even through my telescope, M31 doesn't quite "jell" unless you look askance...
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby rootbeer » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:44 pm

rot...

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the Milky Way was 250 million light years across...

Astronomy fascinates me. How we can predict what is going to happen in our lives by looking at the stars baffles me...
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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby alrot » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:53 pm

rot...

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the Milky Way was 250 million light years across...

Astronomy fascinates me. How we can predict what is going to happen in our lives by looking at the stars baffles me...


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Re: How Big Is Our Universe?

Postby H » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:41 am

rot...
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the Milky Way was 250 million light years across...
Astronomy fascinates me. How we can predict what is going to happen in our lives by looking at the stars baffles me...
100LY ;)
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How we can predict what is going to happen in our lives by looking at the stars baffles me...
Simple, if you're looking at the stars and you see a huge shining mass coming right at you at 600,000mph from 6,000 miles away... after the initial shock you'll make the quick prediction that your life is over... :o

8-)
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