Train slams into car.

If it doesn't fit .. It fits here .. - -

Train slams into car.

Postby Saitek » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:28 pm

How did anyone survive this?  :o One man died, the other two are at my local hospital in Inverness and here at Aberdeen.
This accident is very close to my home.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/hig ... 323367.stm

As the video clip says - why can't barriers come down with the lights? This happens to often in the UK. :(
Windows 7 Pro 64bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E2180 2GHz
GA-P35-DS3L Intel P35
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2) DDR2 6400C4 800Mhz
GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
2 x 22" monitors
200GB Sata
Be Quiet! Straight Power 650W

Flying FS
Saitek
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 5274
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:04 pm
Location: UK

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby Mushroom_Farmer » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:54 pm

Where I live there are many RR crossings without lights or barriers. The people with common sense and survival instinct don't rely on such mechanical gadgets which are prone to malfunctions. They instead stop, or at least slow down to see if a train is coming. The others just go splat because a train will win every time.

An average bulk RR car has a gross combined weight of about 100,000 pounds, or 50 tons. The locomotives are much, heavier.
Last edited by Mushroom_Farmer on Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image

"We're just sitting here trying to put our PCjrs in a pile and burn them. And the damn things won't burn. That's the only thing IBM did right with it - they made i
User avatar
Mushroom_Farmer
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1633
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 11:54 pm
Location: Indiana, USA

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:06 pm

I suspect these kids have in this case been victims of their own stupidity. I'd wager a fair amount that they were trying to beat the train across.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!

Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains c
User avatar
Woodlouse2002
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 10369
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2002 3:51 pm
Location: Cornwall, England

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby Saitek » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:09 pm

But as the article said, further up the line (by about 2 miles) another crash happened only last month. Thankfully no-one was hurt.
Windows 7 Pro 64bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E2180 2GHz
GA-P35-DS3L Intel P35
Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2) DDR2 6400C4 800Mhz
GeForce 8800 GT 512MB
2 x 22" monitors
200GB Sata
Be Quiet! Straight Power 650W

Flying FS
Saitek
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 5274
Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2003 3:04 pm
Location: UK

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:30 pm

But as the article said, further up the line (by about 2 miles) another crash happened only last month. Thankfully no-one was hurt.

Probably the same thing again. Seriously, no in a car is ever accidentally hit by a train. If the lights are flashing then you stop and wait for the train to pass. If you cross the tracks when the lights are flashing (which they will be when a train is approaching) then you only have yourself to blame when a train creams you.

The other time people in cars get hit by trains is when it's suicide.
Woodlouse2002 PITA and BAR!!!!!!!!

Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains c
User avatar
Woodlouse2002
Colonel
Colonel
 
Posts: 10369
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2002 3:51 pm
Location: Cornwall, England

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby eno » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:13 pm

But as the article said, further up the line (by about 2 miles) another crash happened only last month. Thankfully no-one was hurt.

Probably the same thing again. Seriously, no in a car is ever accidentally hit by a train. If the lights are flashing then you stop and wait for the train to pass. If you cross the tracks when the lights are flashing (which they will be when a train is approaching) then you only have yourself to blame when a train creams you.

The other time people in cars get hit by trains is when it's suicide.



As seems to be the trend round here ........... +1
[align=center][img]http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/imaginsigeno.jpg[/img][/align]
User avatar
eno
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 6708
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2004 12:30 pm
Location: Derbyshire UK

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby expat » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:40 pm

This is a subject on Top Gear this week. They use a Renault Espace to demonstrate what happens to a average family car when it takes on a train.

Matt
"A bit of a pickle" - British translation: A catastrophically bad situation with potentially fatal consequences.

PETA Image People Eating Tasty Animals.

B1 (Cat C) licenced engineer, Boeing 737NG 600/700/800/900 Airbus A318/19/20/21 and Dash8 Q-400
1. Captain, if the problem is not entered into the technical logbook.........then the aircraft does not have a problem.
2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
User avatar
expat
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 8679
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:06 am
Location: Deep behind enemy lines....

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby Sir_Crashalot » Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:49 am

As a railroadworker I've seen these things many times. It doesn't matter if a barrier comes down, stupidity tells drivers to drive through the barriers. You don't want to know how many times we replaced complete barriers because they were destroyed by ongoing cars. Mind you that the barriers here in Holland only reach until the middle of the road and are made of wood or aluminium (new model).

Crash ;)

PS be careful along railroadtrracks or railroadcrossing. It gives a bloody mess when you are hit. You won't notice it anymore but the people who have to take away your remains want a pleasant day at work too.
Sir_Crashalot
 

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby murjax » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:17 am

What ever happened to looking both ways before you cross?
Last edited by murjax on Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image
I am just a train fan who happens to like flying and attempting to get the better of the mods especially those with 20/20 vision ;D ;D
User avatar
murjax
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1152
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:18 am
Location: Jacksonville,FL

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby fighter25 » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:30 pm

Scary :o :o :o How did they live from that? :o [smiley=shocked.gif] [smiley=shocked.gif]
Image
fighter25
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1180
Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:50 pm
Location: Dayton, Ohio

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby beaky » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:10 am

It's astounding... if you were to ask any motorist if they'd rather die than be, say, five minutes late for a given destination,  they'd say "heck no!"... yet, this is how most people drive.

They'd rather die- or kill- than be late... or even to line up second at a red light. And it's not really a matter of being late, I suppose... it's the thought of not "winning" or something. It's baffling.

Sometimes I think homo sapiens is just not sufficiently evolved, on the average, to operate a motor vehicle safely.
Image
User avatar
beaky
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
 
Posts: 12877
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:00 am
Location: Shenandoah, PA USA

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby Katahu » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:44 am

I hate it when those idiots try to pull that dare-devil stunt of "who can beat the train". Come one now. Everyone knows that a train will always win, even a fully-loaded 18-wheel semi truck will lose against it. ::)
User avatar
Katahu
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 5993
Joined: Mon Jul 22, 2002 10:29 pm

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby rootbeer » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:16 am

In my misspent youth, I once shot across the tracks in front of a train. It was about 40 yards away and moving at maybe 30 mph as it came into a semi-residential area out in the country. Let me tell you, it looked like the Queen Mary at full steam or a C-5A at near Vr as it came toward me. It literally filled the view out the passenger window. After I crossed and took a look in the rearview mirror to see it go behind where I had just been, I realized how stupid I had been. I never did that again...
Last edited by rootbeer on Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
emachines T6212; AMD Athlon64 3800+ (2.40 GHz; Venice core); Allied AL-B500E 500W power supply; 2048Mb PC3200 DDR400; Westinghouse LCM-22w2 wide-screen LCD monitor; eVGA e-GeForce 7900 GS KO X16 PCIe video card; Logitech Extreme 3D Pro flight controller;<
User avatar
rootbeer
Captain
Captain
 
Posts: 846
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:50 pm
Location: Fernley, Nevada

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby Chris_F » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:22 pm

Proof that cars have become too safe.  I blame all manner of unsafe driving behavior on today's roads on crumple zones, airbags, and ABS.  If cars were dangerous people wouldn't drive like idiots.  I'd bet most people who try to beat a train truely believe that absolutely nothing bad can happen to them in their protected metal cacoon.  Unfortunately the laws of physics care not about such cares and the result is as Newton would predict.  A couple hundred (or thousand) tons of steel beats the silly little tin cage every time.
Chris_F
Major
Major
 
Posts: 1364
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:59 pm

Re: Train slams into car.

Postby expat » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:56 am

Proof that cars have become too safe.  I blame all manner of unsafe driving behavior on today's roads on crumple zones, airbags, and ABS.  If cars were dangerous people wouldn't drive like idiots.  I'd bet most people who try to beat a train truely believe that absolutely nothing bad can happen to them in their protected metal cacoon.  Unfortunately the laws of physics care not about such cares and the result is as Newton would predict.  A couple hundred (or thousand) tons of steel beats the silly little tin cage every time.


You could take out all the crumple zones, airbags and ABS and people would still drive in the same way..............because it always happens to some other person and not them.

Matt
"A bit of a pickle" - British translation: A catastrophically bad situation with potentially fatal consequences.

PETA Image People Eating Tasty Animals.

B1 (Cat C) licenced engineer, Boeing 737NG 600/700/800/900 Airbus A318/19/20/21 and Dash8 Q-400
1. Captain, if the problem is not entered into the technical logbook.........then the aircraft does not have a problem.
2. And, if you have time to write the fault on a napkin and attach to it to the yoke.........you have time to write it in the tech log....see point 1.
User avatar
expat
Lieutenant Colonel
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Posts: 8679
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:06 am
Location: Deep behind enemy lines....

Next

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 345 guests