Just wondering.......

[Rifleman]

[quote] Pick a number between 1 and 9 and study it, would that be math or mathematic.

[Rifleman]

[quote][quote]From an ex-Brit to all the Brits ........

........when an aircraft makes that turn from base leg during a circuit of touch-n-go's or even a full stop landing.......why is it termed to be on "finals" -

[Rifleman]

Those Colonials always seem to change things just for the sake of it or to be different from the traditional ways that have evolved naturally for centuries.

Isn't the change, evolution anyway ? Look at what the kids of today are doing to the world we are leaving them.......

Thinners (the stuff you use for thinning paint) is another example that springs to mind.

I agree 100% with you here, Doug......to me its always been Laquer Thinner. The first time it was identified to me, there was only one tin can on the floor, when I was asked to pass the Thinners...

[Hagar]

Thinners (the stuff you use for thinning paint) is another example that springs to mind.

I agree 100% with you here, Doug......to me its always been Laquer Thinner. The first time it was identified to me, there was only one tin can on the floor, when I was asked to pass the Thinners...

It will always be thinners to me. I'm afraid you've picked up those Colonial habits. There is no hope.

[Rifleman]

Indeed, I'm afraid I may have Doug

[Hagar]

[quote]Indeed, I'm afraid I may have Doug

[Rifleman]

Response delayed..........have to nip out for work........back later.......

[pete]

It isn't. It seems to depend on  who is teaching you. I was told absolutely that it was 'final for 3 zero' (& that is old hat to use 'finals') ... & passed my test on that basis.

[C]

It isn't. It seems to depend on  who is teaching you. I was told absolutely that it was 'final for 3 zero' (& that is old hat to use 'finals') ... & passed my test on that basis.

I think it really depends on where you were flying and who you were flying with. At a field with a tower (and in that case, one would assume a runway designated by them on the basis of the prevailing wind at the time), calling the runway you are on finals for would seem a little spurious, and in a busy circuit would just mean a longer transmission. The only time I can ever recall calling finals for rwy XX would be in my most recent job, where occasionally we use our smaller second runway if the wind puts the main (which the fast jet traffic is using) out of our crosswind limits. To be honest a good ATC unit will be comfortable with whatever terminology you use, even if it isn't their own SoP (eg, mil aircraft at a civvy field and vice-versa).

[Rifleman]

The whole point of wonder on this thread isn't about whether or not you call in .......it's about the terminology of "final' approach as opposed to "finals"......singular, or plural, when making one approach to the runway.........

[beaky]

Here's a weird one. Since spending quite a bit of time in Ohio, I've noticed these folks refer to the document required to operate cars and planes as a plural.

"I have to get my driver's license renewed, they expire next month" ..

This is quite simple. They simply have a chauffer with a terminal illness who's licence is about to run out.

I say, Holmes... you've done it again...

[beaky]

The whole point of wonder on this thread isn't about whether or not you call in .......it's about the terminology of "final' approach as opposed to "finals"......singular, or plural, when making one approach to the runway.........

It relates to what Hagar said about changing things just to be different:

Seeing as how aviation terminology pretty much drifted eastward across the Pond from America to England (having been stolen fair and square by us from the French), the English just had to tack an "S" on the end so as to make it more "proper".

[Rifleman]

Seeing as how aviation terminology pretty much drifted eastward across the Pond from America to England (having been stolen fair and square by us from the French), the English just had to tack an "S" on the end so as to make it more "proper".

Now then.......this is more in line with the sort of explanation I was looking for........I just may be able to accept this...........not understand it, but accept !

[C]

The whole point of wonder on this thread isn't about whether or not you call in .......it's about the terminology of "final' approach as opposed to "finals"......singular, or plural, when making one approach to the runway.........

See my first post then, which seems to have got a little lost in the singular/plural discussion, and how I expect it stems from the "finals" turn - those nice pre-tricycle undercarriage curved approaches, where the final approach was the finals turn, and having nothing to do with the plural of final at all...

[H]

So, is that your final answer?

8-)