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Satellite shot down

Postby expat » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:05 am

Not sure if this is real aviation or not so move if required

I have just read in the news that China has successfully shot down a satellite with an earth-launched missile. It was one of their old redundant weather satellites that was used to the test.
Is this the start of the space weapons race I wonder?


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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby Fozzer » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:13 am

Not sure if this is real aviation or not so move if required

I have just read in the news that China has successfully shot down a satellite with an earth-launched missile. It was one of their old redundant weather satellites that was used to the test.
Is this the start of the space weapons race I wonder?


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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:54 am

And the Americans are complaining that only they should be allowed to play with space weapons.
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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby ozzy72 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:24 am

I think the American government has just realised its anti-missile missile isn't going to be much use against the latest Made In China toy and they're a tad upset ;D
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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:32 am

I think the American government has just realised its anti-missile missile isn't going to be much use against the latest Made In China toy and they're a tad upset ;D

And they're no doubt even more pissed off because it was they who refused to ban space weapons. ;D
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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby ATI_7500 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:16 am

And the Americans are complaining that only they should be allowed to play with space weapons.


No, they're still pissed because none of their hyperexpensive, hypermodern space-age weapons work. ;D


Russia - first in space, first with a working ICBM defense system.
China - first to shoot down a sat.
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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby dcunning30 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:03 am


Factually incorrect


Russia - ace, first with a working ICBM defense system.


With qualifications.  While the US approached the problem by hitting a bullet with a bullet, the Russians approached the problem by hitting a bird with a shotgun.  problem is, the Russian shotgun would have radioactive fallout wafting all over Russian airspace.

China - first to shoot down a sat.


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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby ATI_7500 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:15 pm

With qualifications.  While the US approached the problem by hitting a bullet with a bullet, the Russians approached the problem by hitting a bird with a shotgun.  problem is, the Russian shotgun would have radioactive fallout wafting all over Russian airspace.


Do the russians care about that? No.

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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:18 pm

To be fair, no one has a real, reliable anti-ICBM system.
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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby Fozzer » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:38 pm

To be fair, no one has a real, reliable anti-ICBM system.


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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby dcunning30 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:42 pm

[quote][quote]With qualifications.
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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby expat » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:17 pm

August 21, 1985, The White House announced today that, despite Soviet objections, the United States would proceed with the first American test of an anti-satellite weapon against an object in space.


In reaction to the 11th January 2007Chinese test of an anti satellite missile the United States logged a formal diplomatic protest.
"We are aware of it and we are concerned, and we made it known," White House spokesman Tony Snow said. Under a space policy authorized by President Bush in August, the United States asserts a right to "freedom of action in space" and says it will "deter others from either impeding those rights or developing capabilities intended to do so."

In other words:
Do as we say, not as we do  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby dcunning30 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:57 pm

[quote]August 21, 1985, The White House announced today that, despite Soviet objections, the United States would proceed with the first American test of an anti-satellite weapon against an object in space.


In reaction to the 11th January 2007Chinese test of an anti satellite missile the United States logged a formal diplomatic protest.
"We are aware of it and we are concerned, and we made it known," White House spokesman Tony Snow said. Under a space policy authorized by President Bush in August, the United States asserts a right to "freedom of action in space" and says it will "deter others from either impeding those rights or developing capabilities intended to do so."

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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby ATI_7500 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:12 pm

[And forthermore, the Russian solution is strictly deployed to defend Moscow and nowere else.


Perfectly understandable.

Their problem is tremendously simplified compared to the American problem.  The Russian solution is to intercept the missile on it's downward trajectory, when detecting it's flight path is easily predictable.The American solution involves detecting the trajectory far earlier in it's flight and intercepting it mid-flight, not at the end like the Russian solution.


Russian solutions are always simple, but quite effective. Take the well known "pen for use in space" as an example.

And regarding the American's "hyperexpensive, hypermodern space-age weapons", if you get your news from press that's critical to the US, you'll only learn of the failed tests, and not of the many more successful tests.


If there were many more successful tests, they would have been in the local media. But there weren't any, so there were no successful tests for me.
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Re: Satellite shot down

Postby expat » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:40 pm

August 21, 1985, The White House announced today that, despite Soviet objections, the United States would proceed with the first American test of an anti-satellite weapon against an object in space.


In reaction to the 11th January 2007Chinese test of an anti satellite missile the United States logged a formal diplomatic protest.
"We are aware of it and we are concerned, and we made it known," White House spokesman Tony Snow said. Under a space policy authorized by President Bush in August, the United States asserts a right to "freedom of action in space" and says it will "deter others from either impeding those rights or developing capabilities intended to do so."

In other words:
Do as we say, not as we do  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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That's all you got out of that?   ::) ::) ::) ::)

How much do you know about geopolitics and international relations?



You really take yourself far too seriously at times.

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