Piracy Awareness

[expat]

:D

They had mentioned us, we were just further down the list than we would have liked (or deserved for that matter). After a certain "incident" in the FSX forum we were removed.

Must have missed that one, what was it that was deemed so he heinous?

Matt

[Woodlouse2002]

:D

They had mentioned us, we were just further down the list than we would have liked (or deserved for that matter). After a certain "incident" in the FSX forum we were removed.

Must have missed that one, what was it that was deemed so he heinous?

Matt

Rollerball told an Aces chap exactly what he thought of the new sim. Seems they don't take criticism that well...

[expat]

:D

They had mentioned us, we were just further down the list than we would have liked (or deserved for that matter). After a certain "incident" in the FSX forum we were removed.

Must have missed that one, what was it that was deemed so he heinous?

Matt

Rollerball told an Aces chap exactly what he thought of the new sim. Seems they don't take criticism that well...

Just happened to stumble across the thread in News and info. Having had thread conversation or two with Rollerball in the past, he very much did not like being disagreed with and would at times get personal, something that he always said he did not do (calling people dickheads comes to mind!) so it is not surprising the end effect of that particular thread.

Matt

[Franky_4_Fingers]

Music piracy has exsisted ever since the invention of the compact cassette recorder. I wonder why nobody complaned about that?

[Travis]

3. If you're illegally downloading and installing payware addons just because you don't want to pay the cost set by the developer who has put so much effort into the addon's limitless details, then please stop. This kind of act alone will either discourage more developers from putting more effort into their projects or cause them to charge honest users even more. Or worst yet, they developers might quit altogether.

I say good ridance.  Payware is a crock and a pain in my bum.  I've always found that a much better quality freeware addon will be available in a couple of months to replace that payware which you just HAVE TO HAVE NOW!  Take a chill pill and wait it out.

As for pirating music: I can kinda understand if a band is hurting for the money.  But record execs and most of the bands (*cough* Metallica! *cough*) that are whining about being ripped are rich beyond anyone's dreams on THIS forum.  Quite a little pail of woe we have going for THOSE poor souls, eh?!  Why not whine for Bill Gates getting a few pennies pinched from his pocket while we use the no cd hack, right?  Dang, he won't be able to buy that FIFTH house in the Hamptons!  Oh, wait, that's what some people are doing . . .

If it isn't hurting YOU, I would suggest you stop worrying about it.  And Kat, not being able to install on a third machine doesn't mean you are suffering.  It just means you aren't bending the rules hard enough.

[flymo]

nothing you can do about piracy
its embedded into the net life and can never be removed unless the world was taken over by an evil dictator and he banned the internet.

meh just live with it

john

[Fozzer]

3. If you're illegally downloading and installing payware addons just because you don't want to pay the cost set by the developer who has put so much effort into the addon's limitless details, then please stop. This kind of act alone will either discourage more developers from putting more effort into their projects or cause them to charge honest users even more. Or worst yet, they developers might quit altogether.

If it isn't hurting YOU, I would suggest you stop worrying about it.  And Kat, not being able to install on a third machine doesn't mean you are suffering.  It just means you aren't bending the rules hard enough.

..as the saying goes..."Must try harder".... ...!

nothing you can do about piracy
its embedded into the net life and can never be removed unless the world was taken over by an evil dictator and he banned the internet.

meh just live with it

john

I thank goodness for all those "Pirates/Hackers" who hack into commercial games programs, and offer me the chance of not having to search through my enormous pile of disks for disk No. X before I can play the game which I have purchased, or getting past the first level, with Invincibility, Infinite weapons, Infinite time, God Mode, etc...etc.....!
...without them, my games purchase would be frustration, instant death, and a waste of time and money... ...!

We all have a choice to make...
...Fortunately, I know what mine is.... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]....!

Paul... 8-)...!

Quake/Quake2, Unreal, etc, with all the hacks switched on and eminently playable.....Joy!... ...!

[Saitek]

I am not taking the high moral ground here, but I have never since my first CD drive in about 1990-ish had a OEM disk that was:

Stolen by a sister.
Eaten by the dog.
Scratched by a CD drive.
Eaten by a CD drive.
Scattered by a CD drive.
Generally given up the ghost.
Lost
Lost by a best mate who was just trying it out before he bought it himself.
Left disk 4 on a train, plane, taxi, ship or bus.
Mistakenly used it as a coaster.
Mistakenly used it in that CD mobile that I made to hang over the baby's cot.
Left it on a hot surface warping it.
Put it by mistake into the CD player of my car and then sold said car having in the meantime lost the name and address of the person I sold the car to.
Moved house and left it on the windowsill
Gone away for a short break, left the heating off, come home to find the house freezing, picked up disk 4, dropped disk 4 and due to the cold it shattered into a thousand pieces.
Had disk 4 used as a frisbee by a visiting niece, nephew or friends child.
Had a break in where the only thing stolen was my disk 4, the thief having to walk past my 40 plasma screen to get to it.

I must be the luckiest person alive. I do however have the No-CD patch for FS2004. Why, because I am lazy and can't be bothered with putting the CD in the drive each time I take to the skies.

Matt

I am in precisely the same situation. 100%.

[Cobra]

I am not taking the high moral ground here, but I have never since my first CD drive in about 1990-ish had a OEM disk that was:

Stolen by a sister.
Eaten by the dog.
Scratched by a CD drive.
Eaten by a CD drive.
Scattered by a CD drive.
Generally given up the ghost.
Lost
Lost by a best mate who was just trying it out before he bought it himself.
Left disk 4 on a train, plane, taxi, ship or bus.
Mistakenly used it as a coaster.
Mistakenly used it in that CD mobile that I made to hang over the baby's cot.
Left it on a hot surface warping it.
Put it by mistake into the CD player of my car and then sold said car having in the meantime lost the name and address of the person I sold the car to.
Moved house and left it on the windowsill
Gone away for a short break, left the heating off, come home to find the house freezing, picked up disk 4, dropped disk 4 and due to the cold it shattered into a thousand pieces.
Had disk 4 used as a frisbee by a visiting niece, nephew or friends child.
Had a break in where the only thing stolen was my disk 4, the thief having to walk past my 40 plasma screen to get to it.

I must be the luckiest person alive. I do however have the No-CD patch for FS2004. Why, because I am lazy and can't be bothered with putting the CD in the drive each time I take to the skies.

Matt

I am in precisely the same situation. 100%.

What do you want, a medal

I would suspect the majority of people on this site are 'pirates', and I supsect that well over 50% of pictures in Payware are showing non-legit products...but moaning about it doesnt help...Time would be better spent tracking IP address's if your really that bothered... (in my oh so arogent opinion )

[expat]

I am not taking the high moral ground here, but I have never since my first CD drive in about 1990-ish had a OEM disk that was:

Stolen by a sister.
Eaten by the dog.
Scratched by a CD drive.
Eaten by a CD drive.
Scattered by a CD drive.
Generally given up the ghost.
Lost
Lost by a best mate who was just trying it out before he bought it himself.
Left disk 4 on a train, plane, taxi, ship or bus.
Mistakenly used it as a coaster.
Mistakenly used it in that CD mobile that I made to hang over the baby's cot.
Left it on a hot surface warping it.
Put it by mistake into the CD player of my car and then sold said car having in the meantime lost the name and address of the person I sold the car to.
Moved house and left it on the windowsill
Gone away for a short break, left the heating off, come home to find the house freezing, picked up disk 4, dropped disk 4 and due to the cold it shattered into a thousand pieces.
Had disk 4 used as a frisbee by a visiting niece, nephew or friends child.
Had a break in where the only thing stolen was my disk 4, the thief having to walk past my 40 plasma screen to get to it.

I must be the luckiest person alive. I do however have the No-CD patch for FS2004. Why, because I am lazy and can't be bothered with putting the CD in the drive each time I take to the skies.

Matt

I am in precisely the same situation. 100%.

What do you want, a medal

I would suspect the majority of people on this site are 'pirates', and I supsect that well over 50% of pictures in Payware are showing non-legit products...but moaning about it doesnt help...Time would be better spent tracking IP address's if your really that bothered... (in my oh so arogent opinion )

Moaning about it I was not, it was meant to be a mild bit of humour ,or sarcasm depending if you have a sense of humour or not about the many different reasons people come up with when enquiring about the No-CD patch, nothing more.

Matt

[Woodlouse2002]

I would suspect the majority of people on this site are 'pirates', and I supsect that well over 50% of pictures in Payware are showing non-legit products...but moaning about it doesnt help...Time would be better spent tracking IP address's if your really that bothered... (in my oh so arogent opinion )

Oh you'd be suprised there. The quickest way to get jumped on by members is to admit you have pirated payware. Most of those who use the payware screenshots board seem to have invested their life savings/kids college fund/house into buying the stuff.

[Chris_F]

I'll bet one whole shiny dollar that nobody at MS cares whether or not people who paid for MSFS use a no-CD hack.

But, I bet you they DO care that the hack itself is distributed to us lawful owners, not because it makes piracy easier (although I'm sure they care about that too) but because the file itself isn't being distributed through proper channels.  MS probably has complex distribution agreements with a number of outlets.  These agreements have cash value.  So when someone goes around distributing files that should fall under the domain of these agreements (and 99.9% of the no-CD file falls in to this) then that hurt's MS's distribution agreements.

There's another sim forum I frequent.  When you "beat" the game the game automatically generates a file that unlocks the "special" content.  Someone beat the game and put this file on the 'net.  No big deal, right?  Well, the game company had a distribution agreement with another company and that company got angry that files that fall under that agreement were being distributed by other means.  They didn't care that addon files were distributed, that didn't fall under their agreement, but for a file that came with the original game, even in slightly altered form, to be distributed via other means when they paid for the distribution rights?  They cared about that.

In the end someone figured out how to make the file from scratch (it is a 0 byte file with a certain file name).  Nobody cared that the description of how to make the file was out there, nobody cared that the game was "hacked".  They only cared about distributing the actual file.

[Franky_4_Fingers]

I would be more than happy to buy a (you know what) patch from a source that has distribution rights from Microsoft to provide them but where are they? [smiley=undecided.gif]

[Mushroom_Farmer]

I thank goodness for all those "Pirates/Hackers" who hack into commercial games programs, and offer me the chance of not having to search through my enormous pile of disks for disk No. X before I can play the game which I have purchased, or getting past the first level, with Invincibility, Infinite weapons, Infinite time, God Mode, etc...etc.....!
...without them, my games purchase would be frustration, instant death, and a waste of time and money... ...!

We all have a choice to make...
...Fortunately, I know what mine is.... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]....!

Paul... 8-)...!


Quake/Quake2, Unreal, etc, with all the hacks switched on and eminently playable.....Joy!... ...!

Paul just wants to have his ZX-Spectrunm emulator so he can play all games he couldn't find in his younger years.

[Fozzer]

I thank goodness for all those "Pirates/Hackers" who hack into commercial games programs, and offer me the chance of not having to search through my enormous pile of disks for disk No. X before I can play the game which I have purchased, or getting past the first level, with Invincibility, Infinite weapons, Infinite time, God Mode, etc...etc.....!
...without them, my games purchase would be frustration, instant death, and a waste of time and money... ;)...!

We all have a choice to make...
...Fortunately, I know what mine is.... [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]....!

Paul... 8-)...!


Quake/Quake2, Unreal, etc, with all the hacks switched on and eminently playable.....Joy!... ;D...!

Paul just wants to have his ZX-Spectrunm emulator so he can play all games he couldn't find in his younger years.  ;D ;D

Hi Mush... ;)...!

Tee-Hee... ;D...!

Some of my happiest times, (1980 to the present), have been spent hacking into Sinclair Spectrum Zilog Z80 Machine Code, (with the help of Multiface 1), and modifying games to enable me to get past level 1, (when there are 255+ levels in the bleedin' game!... :o...)...!
...mostly successful... :-*...
...LOL... ;D...!

Paul....Champion Hacker, with a house full of old 8-bit computers...and all the Cassette games...in working order... 8-)...!

...visit here for a bit of joyful nostalgia...>>>>

http://www.spectaculator.com/