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Piracy Awareness

Postby Katahu » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:57 am

Well, I decided to install FSX on a third machine [my old one]. When I got to the activation wizard, the online activation didn't work [no surprised here] so I resorted to phone activation. When I called the service rep, she told me that I had to purchase an additional activation code in order to install FSX on my third machine.

Piracy must have become pretty problematic if Microsoft is charging people for additional activation codes. This isn't the first time that anyone is doing such a move. In my Homestead college, you have to purchase an additonal registration code if you lost the first one [that comes included with a $130 math book] for the math lab. Even Guild Wars [look it up if you don't know this game] does something almost similar. If you lose the activation code or if you're completely unable to log into your account, then you'll have to create a new account and then [if you lost the original activation code] pay an additional $49 for authorization to play with the new account even though you created the old account using genuine installation disc that you have right now [this has happened to me].

But the use of registration codes are not the only things that are bringing in more inconveniences. The price of music has also gone up. Back then, music albums were cheap, but now the prices have gone up because people are file swapping with music. As a result, the music industry loses revenue. In effect, the industry would then raise the prices to compensate. In turn, we [the honest users who obtain music the honest way] suffer even more. As another result, more honest users switch over to illegal downloading just to avoid the inconviniences without considering the economic damage they're doing just by commiting such an act.

Then there's other "caused-by-piracy" inconviniences that are too many to list.

I blame piracy for a lot of our inconveniences, but I never thought piracy would force companies to go that far in order to combat it. I have to say that those who would use piracy [ie: nocd cracks, hacked codes, illegal file swapping, etc.] in order to avoid these incoveniences must understand that using such a pirating act will only encourage pirateers to hack even more, thus forcing companies to fight back even more, which in turn causes more incovenience to the honest user. There was a few of us who don't seem to realize this and would automatically point fingers at companies or industries and blame them for monopolizing their products.

If there's anyone out there browsing the SimViation forums right now who commit piracy, hear this:

1. If you're downloading songs or movies illegally just to avoid the high prices or because you don't want to buy an 12-song album in which you only listen to one song, please stop now. There are cheaper and legal sources to get movies and individual songs without paying for the extra stuff that you don't want.

2. If you're downloading nocd cracks, or using hacked codes just because you don't want to pay extra to play your favorite game, please stop now. The less pirating you [and all of us in this crazy world] commit, the less motivated the hackers become. Therefore, the less strict companies like Apple, Microsoft, etc. become when it comes to their games.

3. If you're illegally downloading and installing payware addons just because you don't want to pay the cost set by the developer who has put so much effort into the addon's limitless details, then please stop. This kind of act alone will either discourage more developers from putting more effort into their projects or cause them to charge honest users even more. Or worst yet, they developers might quit altogether.

4. If you're purchasing CDs filled with pirated freeware addons [like the case in Ebay] just because you have a 56k connection and you don't like waiting, please stop. This act along will also discourage developers from producing fine addons. Or worst yet, the developers might quit altogether.

People who support piracy would like to call their deavious acts with a more politically correct and friendly-sounding terms like "alternative sources"
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby expat » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:53 am

Firstly, I do not condone piracy. But until it becomes a fact that you will be caught via your IP or some other way, even when you download a single song and then are fined a large amount of money and have your computer taken away, then unfortunately piracy is here to stay. Saying "please stop" is nice but it is a effective as farting against thunder. The only way to stop it is to have a dedicated "internet police" to monitor every IP in the world and check what is being downloaded etc or in the case of music, the big players not being paid millions for singing an a single record thus making the CD more affordable. Unfortunately the good old US constitution would be against one and the money makers against the other. Combine that with the corruption of the Asian and Far East governments and their attitude towards such things, not forgetting the European Union, just as corrupt and only really concerned with PC issues and whether a banana has the correct curve to it (that is not joke), piracy is here to stay.

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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby Cobra » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:09 am

Sorry Katahu, but I think you need to find more convincing arguements if you really want people to stop, I mean...you are talking about people spending there hard earned cash to support stupidly over priced costs of Mircrosoft and the music in general...

Im no pirate, 56k connection (not that I would even if i had broadband :-*) but there are definatley benifits to us all of piracy. It drives the prices of software/music down and improves customer service, it is almost like competition. At the end of the day the only way to stop piracy is to lower the prices vastly, and improve delivery times etc. At the moment, the way I see it, its faster, easier and FREE to get software/music illegally...so i can kinda sympathize with them.

hehe sorry im just being disagreable, if you had said piracy is great I would have argued against you too...just in that sort of mood... ;D It does make you feel sick when you spend over
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby Theis » Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:52 am

[quote]It does make you feel sick when you spend over
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby Fozzer » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:04 am

Piracy versus Genuine...

...me...?

I just put up with it...;)...

...'cos anything I suggest, or recommend, is not going to is to change anything...

..it's Human nature.... 8-)...!

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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby expat » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:32 am


Paul...(I love my "No-CD" hack for my genuine purchased version of FS 2004)... 8-)...!




Looks like the profanity filter is not working, it let "No-CD hack" through.

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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby cheesegrater » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:56 am

The only way to stop it is to have a dedicated "internet police" to monitor every IP in the world and check what is being downloaded etc or in the case of music, the big players not being paid millions for singing an a single record thus making the CD more affordable.


The "internet police" already exist.

However, you are right, they are not strict enough, this looks like a job for Metallicops!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb_jLAisPzk
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:02 am

Kahatu, Piracy doesn't drive the cost of music up. I lowers it. Albums are cheaper now than they were 10 years ago and the only reason software such as iTunes and (legal) Napster were created were to combat piracy. After all, a few years ago if you wanted a specific song then you either downloaded it off a file sharing programme, or you brought the single. And very few songs are avaliable as singles...
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby DaveSims » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:43 am

Tell the billionaire recording execs and singers to stop charging $25 for a cd that only has one, possibly two respectable songs, and I'll think about it.  
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby cheesegrater » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:32 pm

[quote]Downloading is music is apparently okay if your dad is the head of Warner Music Group. While everyone else gets sued, the kids got a stern warning from dad.

http://blogs.reuters.com/2006/12/01/the ... ad-of-all/

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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby commoner » Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:32 am

....mmm....Kat.....whilst I wouldn't condone piracy, I think you should come down from planet X and join the rest of us on planet earth...........all or most of what I want to say has been said by the other posters.........commoner ::)

PS..I am virtually "stone" deaf on this subject so no lectures please ;)
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby Helms » Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:07 am

I think a nice serial number would have done just fine ;)

i hardly have the money to purchase another activation code, let alone buy the game itself :'(
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby Chris_F » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:53 am



You know I'm all for stringing up software and music pirates from the nearest tree...

...but I get sick and tired of the music industry blaming its woes on file swapping.  The music industry has been producing a very poor product for decades and charging too much for it.  It's probably the most inteptly run industry I can think of: they ignore their customer for a good five years (how long did it take them to start selling individual tracks in MP3 format?) they overprice their product (do people really pay $18 for a CD?) and they produce a very poor product in the first place (J-Lo, Britney, Spice Girls, are you listening?  Do record execs have ears anymore or are they born deaf but with good eye sight?)

Does the publishing industry blame libraries for poor book sales?  Does the auto industry blame mass transit for poor car sales?  C'mon, grow a spine, admit you suck and fix your companies.

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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby DaveSims » Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:47 pm

Exactly.  Take a look back, and I'm sure you'll find the decline in record sales will coincide with the increase in prices.  I don't make enough money to run out and buy a $20+ CD, especially just because there is one song I like, but will be sick of by next week.
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Re: Piracy Awareness

Postby Katahu » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:10 am

Thanks for the optimsm guys. ::)
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