9/11 vids

[BAW0343]

i dont want to start anything with this, i just want to post with this. im just getting the news around of 2 new vids outside of pentagon,

and if these are real, i think the plane they claim to have hit the pentagon was a lie, or a typo

here are the links:

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2006/05/16/393497.html

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi/index.html

[Scorpiоn]

I wouldn't say this proves anything.  But it does provide the nuts with a good deal of ammunition.  However, logic proves superior.

Bobby Joe, with his slick flash animation and avant garde and revolutionary music, called the entire US governments bluff, and, being defeated, the US simply said, "you win."  The US is notorious for conceding positions in spite of any lost face in international disputes, right?

[Mobius]

"The simplest answer is most often the right answer."

66 people dead is not a typo.

I'll leave it at that.

[Scorpiоn]

Not necessarily.  The nuts don't dispute the dead.  They dispute who killed them.

The problem I have with all the theories is they claim some wacky aircraft like a Global Hawk or something out of the Skunk Works, disguised to look as a jetliner.  Some even claim cloaking technology. Why not just use a real jetliner?  And why on Earth would you identify a plane in a FBI or CIA conspiracy with the FBI or CIA logo?

Common sense wins.

[ozzy72]

When you look at the original photos of the crash at the Pentagon there are no signs of any plane! Doesn't anyone think that is a little odd? And why did it take so long to reveal this footage? I still reckon it was a car bomb, albeit a ruddy big one!

[Scorpiоn]

I would think it's perfectly reasonable to believe any fragments of plane (at least, what's left left after a run in with concrete) would be nestled deep within the Pentagon.  At such high speeds, why would the debris just reverse direction?

[Craig.]

surely you've all seen the video of the F4 being crashed into a wall. The result was nothing but the wing tips being left as they didn't go into the wall. The rest was dust.

[Craig.]

If I really had the time and patience. No doubt I could come up with a video that would convince you the allies were the ones who started the second world war and that we we the bad guys.
Using convincing techniques and truth twisting can be a dangerous thing.
No one has yet to come up with a plausable reason for the US being behind any of this. And no-one has given a plauseable reason for the conspiricies.

[Scorpiоn]

surely you've all seen the video of the F4 being crashed into a wall. The result was nothing but the wing tips being left as they didn't go into the wall. The rest was dust.

My exact thoughts as I wrote what I did.  Ironic how that this exact side of the Pentagon was the last side (I believe) awaiting reinforcment for this exact scenario.

I actually have yet to see anything convincing.  And I refuse to watch an hour long flash.  I usually have to skip parts because of how embarassingly poor they are, which flash doesn't let you do.  Some have had the sense to use Google videos or putfile.

[Politically Incorrect]

I had taped all the events as they unfolded on 9-11 and have watched them over and over again.
The towers are obvious as to how they came down, but the Flight 93 is another story.

How is it that a plane traveling at 500-550mph hits the ground at near vertical impact leaves a debris field over 8 miles?.

Numerous photos show the debris field leading to and after the impact zone which is a 35' deep crater, and debris as far as 8 miles from there.

It isnt possible that a plane that just impacts at that angle to blow debris it that far a distance.

What WOULD cause such a massive debris field was a aircraft that expeianced its trauma before hittng the ground, such as a explosion or missle strike.

NTBS stated that the debris "floated there", considering that the winds on the day and time were 9 mph still isn't possible that stuff was falling before the aircraft contacted the ground.

And of course there are the eye witness accounts that saw debris falling before the plane crashed.

In about 50-60 years the classified findings will be released as public information and that is when we will know the truth.

[Delta_]

I had taped all the events as they unfolded on 9-11 and have watched them over and over again.
The towers are obvious as to how they came down, but the Flight 93 is another story.

How is it that a plane traveling at 500-550mph hits the ground at near vertical impact leaves a debris field over 8 miles?.

Numerous photos show the debris field leading to and after the impact zone which is a 35' deep crater, and debris as far as 8 miles from there.

It isnt possible that a plane that just impacts at that angle to blow debris it that far a distance.

What WOULD cause such a massive debris field was a aircraft that expeianced its trauma before hittng the ground, such as a explosion or missle strike.

NTBS stated that the debris "floated there", considering that the winds on the day and time were 9 mph still isn't possible that stuff was falling before the aircraft contacted the ground.

And of course there are the eye witness accounts that saw debris falling before the plane crashed.

In about 50-60 years the classified findings will be released as public information and that is when we will know the truth.

It is the Pentagon, they have anti-aircraft batteries.  

They turned the transponder off on the aircraft, which renders it unidentifiable on civil radar.  When this happens military radar will monitor it because it is unidentified.  Normal procedure would be to send fighters up.

For debris to go that far a missile must have hit it.  Whether it was air to air or ground to air, that is unknown.

The grey area is too large for any conclusions.

[eno]

OOOO don't you just love a conspiracy.

Ok for this particular part of 9/11 ..... how are you going to account for  A. The missing aircraft. (Must have been miraculously spirited away.) and B. The people who obviously didn't arrive at their destinations and never have. (Must have been abducted by UFOs).

[sarcasm] Area 51 ....... thats it !! ...... they're all being kept there by the Men in Black [/sarcasm].

Why can no one accept what is a simple fact ...... the frame rate for the cameras that took these shots was 1 frame every 3 seconds which is more than enough time for an aircraft traveling at 550mph to dissappear through the shot. As for the lack of aircraft debris see Craig's post on the Phantom and the concrete block.

[Hagar]

I think all this proves is that conventional CCTV cameras are practically useless for this type of investigation - or security for that matter.

I'm prepared to believe there's more to the Flight 93 incident than the US government would care to admit. I won't be around when the truth is revealed, if the evidence hasn't somehow mysteriously disappeared by then.