gas prices (version 9.23.1)

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Re: gas prices (version 9.23.1)

Postby Triple_7 » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:35 pm

Well, not everyone uses a 4x4 like that. I once saw a 4x4 that was sooooooo taken off road that it was covered completely in mud. Heck, even the mud covered the ALL the windows. Bbasically, it looked like a giant chocolate bar with wheels. ;D


Thats just from some of us country boys havin a little fun :P

But really.  I've been listening to CNN the past few days and they tend to read off peoples emails.  Seems there is a lot of people who blame all this on SUVs and 4x4s >:(  Most always have this "I dont see why people drive them...I just bought a new, more fuel efficient car and dispise people who drive SUVs etc"   What ticks me off about that is it makes it sound like everyone should run out and buy a new car that may get 35 mpg.  Sorry...but not only do I refuse to buy a car unless its an older muscle car....but i dont have 30 grand just laying around for a new vehical ::)  Most people cant afford these hybrids with starting prices over 25 grand.  Most I could afford right now is maybe $2,000 and thats selling my truck which would be pointless since i have it for work.  Its the only vehical I own and have to drive it on short runs.  Even then most cars I've seen in that price range wouldnt get any better milage :-/  

Even if everyone drove a fuel efficeint vehical gas prices wouldnt go down...simple reason...those rich oil execs still want all that extra profit.  Gas would probably be even higher.  

All I know is that our average in this town for the past couple days has been $2.95.  Not like I have a choice to not buy it.  Something needs to be done......and soon.  Price gouging 101 >:(

Whats wrong with this picture..........yesturday I saw the price at my usual station down to $2.86 (wow what a bargain) I filled up ($65) and went in to pay.  I was asked whether or not I filled up with $2.86 or $2.96...I stood there thinking ???  It was $2.86 as far as i knew.  Paid and went to leave...while i was filling up they had uped the price 10 cents (electronic sign)       Funny....I never saw a fuel truck unloading into the underground tanks >:( >:( >:(  There loss though....that small line of people waiting noticed this and left :P
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Re: gas prices (version 9.23.1)

Postby Politically Incorrect » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:49 am

One reason that Americans complain about increasing gas prices is that unlike Europe, 50-70% of our price isn't tax, its all profit for the oil companies.

Don't know where you get your info from but that is rediculious.
That is what the media would make you belive but is false.
You see many belive that gas prices are high because the oil companies are inflating the prices to increase their profits, if this were so then it would be reflected throughout the whole world, since the single most factor in the cost of gasoline is the price of a barrel a which it is $75 and it is that same price everywhere in the world for everyone! Oil companies do not control the price of a barrel of oil ;)

Most people think that one oil company owns the oil rig that gets the crude out of the ground, the tanker that delivers it and the refinery that makes the gasoline.  This is also false.  In many cases, every step in that chain is owned by a different party.  Then, when it comes to the actual gasoline, the gas station is most likely an independent dealer...who may have a franchise from one of the big oil companies. We are to believe that all of these separate companies and individuals got together to fix gas prices artificially high?
In case you haven't checked lately, the supply of crude oil and refined gasoline is limited, but the demand is increasing worldwide.  This leads to temporary shortages and higher prices.

You can easily research any of this on the web.
I will lay some numbers out for you.

On the gallon-

The Store or gas station makes  $.14
The oil company $.12
Government (state and federal) $.49 -$.63 in New York

These numbers alone show that the Government makes more off the sale of gas than anyone.

It is easy to blame oil companies, after all there are few of them and fuel being a commoditiy is a something we all need.
Scorpion said it earlier, supply and demand, we are using more fuel than we are capable of producing THIS is why prices are so high.
Look back a few years before the big SUV boom, gas prices hung around $1.25 per gallon. Then all the sudden everyone needed these huge off road vehicles to go to the store, I see these things being driven all over and no more than one person in a vehicle that holds 10.
So the car manufacturers should be blamed ;)

The reason Americans are so mad, is because we are ignorant in Economics, most don't understand the simplicity of supply and demand, the most basic rule of economics.

AHHH RECORD PROFITTS WE ARE BEING RIPPED OFF!!!!

No we are buying more than ever before.

America is built off of free enterprise, you start a business you are in it to make money not lose it, or give it away becasue people are mad.

As for pensions etc... So what?
Americans are mad at that because we hate those who have more than us! jeliousy.
If a CEO is getting a 4 million pension plan then he/she obviously worked for it, it isn't due to the higher price of fuel. It is becasue they were hired to do a job and obviusly did it well.

It's called the fair market at work

The most recent Exxon Executive  Lee Raymond for example . Why is Raymond getting so many bucks?  The short answer is he earned it.  In the 12 years he ran Exxon, the company's stock price went up 500 percent.  Last year, Exxon posted the largest profit of any company in history: $36 billion.  Now, for those of you educated in government schools ... that's not the profit margin we're talking about, it's the total profit.  Uneducated people look at Exxon's billions and think they're ripping people off.  Actually, Exxon is simply profiting from a situation of supply and demand., so he shouldn't be paid for a job well done? Think about that the next time your denied a raise.

Get off it people and don't listen to the media or Government as to the reasons for high prices. Do your research and learn the real reasons.

We are to blame for prices no one else, we need our inefficent big vehicles in which we don't know how to drive properly to get the best miliage from them, we never check our tire presure, change the oil, obey the speed limits, or carpool, we let the car warm up for 15 minutes before going anywhere, and at a green light punch the gas to show off to the chick next to us.

Get off the "record profits" bandwagon and stop being so ignorant, get online and research the facts then post your comments. Hell gas is still cheaper than bottled water
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Postby Scorpiоn » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:07 am

My thoughts exactly.  Minus the pensions. :P ;) Unfortunately, only Europe has the sense enough to develop good, small, sechsy cars.  I would kill to get my hands on one of these.

http://www.bath.ac.uk/mech-eng/en-proj20/index.html

Although in Europe's offense (not defense?), they've (y'all've) probably been forced into because of taxes and such -  not though preferrence.  For the time being I've got my eye on the Yaris.  It may not look like the motorcycle/car thing, but at least it doesn't look like every other Honda/Ford/Chevy/Peugeot/Nissan...
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Re: gas prices (version 9.23.1)

Postby Politically Incorrect » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:12 am



Whats wrong with this picture..........yesturday I saw the price at my usual station down to $2.86 (wow what a bargain) I filled up ($65) and went in to pay.  I was asked whether or not I filled up with $2.86 or $2.96...I stood there thinking ???  It was $2.86 as far as i knew.  Paid and went to leave...while i was filling up they had uped the price 10 cents (electronic sign)       Funny....I never saw a fuel truck unloading into the underground tanks >:( >:( >:(  There loss though....that small line of people waiting noticed this and left :P



Nothing wrong with the picture, the store must replace the fuel that you just dispensed with the higher price fuel in the truck that is on the way to fill the tanks ;)

They must recover the difference in cost of the next delivery. Why should they sell you gas for .10 cheaper than they will have to pay to replace it?
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Postby Politically Incorrect » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:26 am

My thoughts exactly.  Minus the pensions. :P ;)


You can't blame someone for getting a job you or i wish we could have with such benifits ;)
Look at Pro Athletes, do they deserve million dollar saleries?
Musicians? Actors/actresses? are they worth millions of dollars?

No different than a Executive at a oil compmany or any company for that matter, they got the jobs you or I didn't and we are jelious of that plain and simple ;)

Its just that we can blame a oil company executive becasue we all need fuel to live our lives, where as we can do without watching a game on TV or listening to a cd ;)
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Postby Scorpiоn » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:32 am

Actually, all those people you mentioned get too much money for what they do, as far as I'm concerned.  I'm in favor of earning your money, but at some point it just becomes excessive.  Call me a Communist if you must. ::) ;D

At least .01% of these hyper-rich types do some good with thier money.  Prime example numero onu is Angelina Jolie adopting an African baby, which speaks volumes in my eyes.  There's a silver lining to every money laden, corrupt cloud. ;D

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Re: gas prices (version 9.23.1)

Postby Fozzer » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:57 am

...it's a funny old do, Lads...
But whenever I hear mention of the word "GAS", I automatically think of the stuff that comes out of my gas cooker and my gas fire...
...in that case I have just noticed that my "GAS" bill has nearly doubled in the past 3 months...
...which means that my lovely dins, and my efforts to keep myself warm and cosy have now nearly doubled in price... :o...!
So I am now due to die of malnutrition and hypothermia... :'(...!
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Re: gas prices (version 9.23.1)

Postby Romulus111VADT » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:57 am

A sure sign your local gas prices are way to high is when a person goes in and asks for $5.00 worth and the attendent farts and asks if they need a reciept for their purchase.

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Postby Scorpiоn » Sat Apr 29, 2006 7:01 am

Gas= Gas stuff in England
Gas= Petrol stuff in the U.S.

And in Chile gas stuff is Benzin! ::)

A sure sign your local gas prices are way to high is when a person goes in and asks for $5.00 worth and the attendent farts and asks if they need a reciept for their purchase.

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Reliable Romulus hath stricken again! ;D
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Re: gas prices (version 9.23.1)

Postby commoner » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:59 am

..mm....what really amazes me is that at my local Tesco the pump price for unleaded was 92.9 p/litre..........less that 200 yards down the road it was 98.9p/litre..........now wouldn't you think that the second place would be devoid of customers?....Well you might, but in fact cars were actually queueing at both.........price cutting seems to have no effect whatsoever............commoner. ???

........PLEASE don't tell me it is better quality petrol......... :P
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Postby Scorpiоn » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:26 am

I've actually heard you should always get the worst quality gasoline possible; more pricey types of "petrol" can actually damage your car.  I can't verify its truth, however.
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Postby Politically Incorrect » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:20 am

I've actually heard you should always get the worst quality gasoline possible; more pricey types of "petrol" can actually damage your car.  I can't verify its truth, however.


If your speaking of "octane" rating it is possible. (higher octane=higher price)
Higer octanes burn hotter and in todays newer cars can damage some components.

You should always use what your cars manual states to use and 95% of the time it is the low octane.

The higher octane gas is a farce and any cars can run the low octane no matter what your mechanic tells you, running higher octane will not increase gas millage, boost performance etc.

The computers that new cars use can adjust your vehicles mixture and other ignition system components to burn the fuel at the best possible rate no matter what ocatane, so when someone says your car neeeds higher octane that is false as your car will adjust to the lower grade.

Buy the cheaper it wont hurt you in any way ;)
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Re: gas prices (version 9.23.1)

Postby Paz » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:52 am

Hell gas is still cheaper than bottled water.


 Looking at Walmart receipt: Bottled water $0.64 per gal. looking at gas price across the street $2.99 and up per gal.
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Re: gas prices (version 9.23.1)

Postby Politically Incorrect » Mon May 01, 2006 4:51 pm


 Looking at Walmart receipt: Bottled water $0.64 per gal. looking at gas price across the street $2.99 and up per gal.


Well I was talking the "name brand" bottle water, such as Dasani, $1.29 a 16oz bottle in comparison to a gallon of gasoline.
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