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Math is all lies...

Postby Mobius » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:31 pm

Alright....

Sorry to drag this up (:P :-X) but, while sitting in calculus today, a friend of mine and I did something unthinkable, we started thinking about math.  So, here it goes...

Okay, this is to prove that .999999999999(repeating forever) is the same as 1.

He says:

(1/9) = 0.1111111111(repeating)
(8/9) = 0.8888888888(repeating)

so (1/9) + (8/9) = 0.1111(rep) + 0.8888(rep)
which means (9/9) = 0.9999999(rep)
and since (9/9)=1   ,    0.99999 must be 1 also.


I say (again, sorry about this, but I am really bored):

Say you have 3.9999999(rep)

according to him, this is 4.

so, if you have a rounding down function ((step-down function)( where you round any real number  down to the nearest intiger, i.e. 1.8763 becomes 1.000, 5.987869 becomes 5.0000, etc...)), again you have this thing and you plug in 3.999999(rep) and use this function on it you would get 3.00000 because it is not 4 or above, however if you did this according to his rules, 3.9999(rep) = 4 and you use this answer, you would round 3.9999(rep) down to get 4.0000. ???

so, according to him, 3 = 4


So all of math is lies and for a third time (not a fourth I don't think) I am very sorry and it seems I have misplaced my pretty white jacket with the special sleeves and shiny buckles.

(Oh boy)

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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby Corsair Freak » Fri Sep 23, 2005 11:56 pm

can someone please get this desperate man a g/f.










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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby Katahu » Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:11 am

*Big, tall, strong men in white uniforms grap Mobuis and puts the I-Love-Me jacket on him*

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Don't you worry. Everything will be alright. Soon, none of this will have ever happened. 8)
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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby H » Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:58 am

Wait, Katahu, first let me add to the confusion. In sequential reduction of a series of numers to a single integer (i.e. 3+4=7, 8+6+7=2+1=3, etc.), a 9 added to any number equals that number (9+5=1+4=5, 9+9+7=2+5=7); in such a case, since 0 plus any number equals that number, 9 must equal 0 :o ???.  :-X 8)
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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby Saitek » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:21 am

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Umm, yes that's very interestig Mobius. ;D  

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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby Politically Incorrect » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:53 am

Why do I even attempt to read a topic like this? Now I got a headache. LOL!!!!

But never worry sooner or later it will be found that numbers as we know it was a prank and 1+1 won't equal 2 but really 1, I mean we have been taught what numbers represent but what if the whole time it was wrong, some vital mistake that occured centuries ago??? Oh man! now Im thinking too much! I had better go lay down. lol
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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby GeForce » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:44 am

can someone please get this desperate man a g/f.


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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby Tweek » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:11 am

When you start thinking of it like that, it can't help but get confusing! I was shown something like this that 'proved' 1 = 2 a couple of days ago, strange!  ::)
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Re: Math is all lies...

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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby Ivan » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:01 am

Hint for the topic starter: read a decent article about IEEE floating point mathematics
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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby Tweek » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:07 am

Hint for the topic starter: read a decent article about IEEE floating point mathematics


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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby Jimbo » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:11 am

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Re: Math is all lies...

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Re: Math is all lies...

Postby notloste » Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:51 am

Well, I can help you prove that 0.(9) = 1, but you're on your own with the 3=4 thing.

1/3 = 0.(3)
3 * 1/3 = 1
3 * 0.(3) = 0.(9)
Therefore 0.(9) = 1

Here is something you can ponder though.

a = b
a^2 = a*b
a^2-b^2 = a*b-b^2
(a+b)(a-b) = b(a-b)
(a+b) = b
a+a = a
2a = a
2 = 1
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