The right to die

[jordonj]

Well, at the risk of sounding redundant, this thread is not about Terry Schaivo...

[Scottler]

Doesn't really matter anymore, does it?  

It is indeed a horrific day in the world when spousal homicide is considered noble.

[TacitBlue]

I think ALROT said it best - this is (or was) out of our hands, so theres no reason to get upset about it. Its over and Im glad its over. I am not happy she is dead, I never had any feeling one way or the other on this case, just happy that its done and over with. Now its time to drop it and move on. I hate seeing this kind of conflict on SimV and I hate to see us divided, so come on guys lets talk about something else.

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[Scottler]

The day a computer game is more important than the life of a human being is the day I sell my computer.

[TacitBlue]

I think you missed my point...

[Scottler]

Do any of you realize that a soldier in Iraq now faces ten years in prison after a military court found him guilty of shooting a wounder Iraqi man "to end his suffering"?

Yet for some reason Michael Schiavo can starve his wife to death, "to end her suffering", and he's the hero...

I'm truly disgusted and sickened by the thoughts of those who think this is acceptable behavior.

[Hagar]

Hype. You're as entitled to your opinion as me or anyone else here. I would like to think that the way I feel about certain issues does not affect the way other members of this forum feel about me as a human being or spoil old friendships. Unfortunately I think this is unlikely & maybe I shouldn't enter these discussions or reveal my true feelings. There are too many different issues involved & whatever I say is bound to upset somebody.

From what I can see the death of this poor woman is only the start of bitter recriminations which could last for some considerable time & might never be resolved. I think it's now time this thread was locked or even deleted before someone says something they regret. While he might have been a tad naive to think it wouldn't be brought up, I believe that it was never Jordon's intention to turn this into a discussion on this specific case.

[Craig.]

Well, at the risk of sounding redundant, this thread is not about Terry Schaivo...

Perhaps not, but what did you expect when you bring this up at the same time as this widely publicised case.

[ATI_7500]

Well, in the case of the soldier, you don't know whether the Iraqui requested to end his suffering or not. It might have as well been a lie that the soldier told.

But you couldn't have asked Mrs. Schiavo in any case. Okay, actually you could have asked her till the end of days, but you wouldn't have got an answer by her.

In both cases, someone else judged over the life of someone else, but in the first one, the judgement is highly arguable, while in the second case, everybody, who set aside "guidelines" of religion and politics could see that this woman never had a chance to continue her life to a full extent. If your conscience is dead to ninety per cent, you can't live on like a normal human.
I don't know the kind of wounds the Iraqui had, but if it was only his leg or arm, he could have continued his life. If his organs were damaged, he could have been saved by a doctor or he would have died in the process of trying to save him.

[Scottler]

Hagar, excellent point...so before it gets locked, let me just add a response.

I do disagree with some of the opinions represented on the site.  But that doesn't at all (except in the really extreme cases) change my opinion of the people putting out those opinions.

I mean, if you're going to say that we should all worship gerbils because they talk to you, okay then maybe I'm going to think you're a bit off.

But for the most part, I firmly believe that it is varying opinion that propels society as a whole.  I don't have to like what you're saying in order to think of you as a valuable contributor to our world.  I've got no gripes against anyone on this subject.  I've just got an opinion that differs than a lot of you, and a passionate, deep-running interest in this case.  No harm in that.

[jordonj]

Actually I don't think this deserves to get locked...there have been no insults nor has this gotten nearly as heated as other ones I have seen.  I spite of several differing opinions I think this has stayed quite civil.

[Hagar]

[quote]Actually I don't think this deserves to get locked...there have been no insults nor has this gotten nearly as heated as other ones I have seen.

[Scottler]

Maybe it's my youthful ignorance, but I've always said that nothing is better left unsaid, because that's how things get changed.

It seems that people older than me, though, disagree.  My mom tells me constantly the same thing Hagar says here...the only thing I can think of is it's a generational difference.

[767-300er]

well, we've got good members in these forums, unlike some forums I've been to were the members are constantly bashing each other.

[Scottler]

Absolutely, 767!  I don't agree with them sometimes, and they don't always agree with me.  But overall, the membership here is a stand-up bunch.

Sure, we've had our little bickerings here and there.  And more than once a weasel has snuck in.  But they usually disappear just as quickly.  

But in the end, the membership here as a collective is top notch.