Jamie's School Dinners

[Woodlouse2002]

So does Jamie care? Or does Jamie want to get back on the telly?

[Hagar]

Kids will always complain about school dinners. We were no different in my day. From what I've seen the average school food is very different to what we used to have. Ours might not always have been to our liking but they were carefully planned to include all the essentials within a strict budget. School meals were always hot & well balanced, in fact much better than some children would get at home. School dinners were compulsory & if you didn't like it & refused to eat it you went hungry. This was only a few years after the end of WWII & many things were still rationed or hard to get hold of. Decent school grub is one of the things I put my general good health throughout my life down to.

I don't know when all this changed but from what I can make out you now get a selection of fast food. This is more the fault of the parents who never knew what a decent meal is. I heard Jamie Oliver on the radio the other day saying that some parents objected to his new menus & demanded they brought back "proper food" like burgers & chips.

PS. I still fantasise over some of those old school dinners today.

[Jared]

lol, we don't get nothing like that here where I live...

But I do have to say that when you are dipping yesterdays corn dog in last weeks ketchup you might want to start packing a lunch.. ;-)

[Hagar]

Jamie Oliver was trying to introduce real meals like roast chicken and prok and other more healthy things and there were kids there that had never had vegetables before (I kid you not ) It is still the case that it is the only meal some may get and that is why this is worrying because all these kids is junk food with high fat and sugar levels which makes them hyper and just generally little shits. In the program made sure one kid didn't have any junk food or pop for a week and his behaviour improved a great deal.

This is the point he made on the radio. You have to educate the parents who were themselves brought up on junk food before you can change the eating habits of the children.

[bm]

I saw the episode last night - I must say I was deeply shocked! Most kids (all but one in his class) could not name a single vegetable shown - let alone eaten it

Hats off to him for drawing every ones attention to it, he does care there is no doubt about it. One of the most telling things on the program was where Jamie persuaded a family to eat healthily for a while, the children were noticeably much better behaved (no tantrums etc) while on the healthy diet. One night the parents gave the kids a treat - within half an hour it was back to normal - it just shows.

Apparently there are constipation clinics in London - attended mostly by children not passing for around six weeks.........

What on earth is wrong with everybody! And we're banning bloody foxhunting (BTW. fox came in to the chicken coop last week ripping the heads off all the chickens but eating not one... - not one bloody chicken!)

The kids aren't complaining about the food - in fact they are campaining against jamies new healthy school meals!

I really hope he manages to change something.

Edit - ooops! I realise most of this has already been said....

[MWISimmer]

.You can't knock Jamie Oliver for what he's doing... I've always thought him to be ok in a "trendy cooking" type way, however he gets up my missus' nose!
IMO school dinners changed when kids were given CHOICE.
I went to school in the 70's/80's, had my daily milk nicked by Maggie, and was made to suffer "real school dinners". Around 82ish my school changed to a canteen style setup. Chips, burgers, pizza etc, along with some healthy choices(fish, veg etc.) Guess what we all ate?
...
It's easy to change the menu, it's the kids & parents that need educating about what's healthy, and i think Oliver's putting the message across.
BTW 37p per kid? Blimey that's gotta be hard.
Rob
NWIS.

[commoner]

Kids will always complain about school dinners.......... School dinners were compulsory & if you didn't like it & refused to eat it you went hungry.

.....True Hagar ..I hated school dinners to the nth degree as did most of my peers..........but I would like to know when and where school dinners were COMPULSORY ?.. certainly not at my school (Barnsley Grammar 1945/52) where a room was set aside for pupils to eat their own sandwiches. We often used local municipal cafe too in our long, hour and a half lunch breaks...9 old pence..for a tasty two course meal....commoner

[Hagar]

.....True Hagar ..I hated school dinners to the nth degree as did most of my peers..........but I would like to know when and where school dinners were COMPULSORY ?.. certainly not at my school (Barnsley Grammar 1945/52) where a room was set aside for pupils to eat their own sandwiches

I could be wrong as it was along time ago. If I remember correctly we were not allowed to bring in food from outside or even allowed outside the school gates at lunchtime. Mine was a very strict school & all the better for it. IMHO

When I first went there we had to take sandwiches every other day as the canteen was not big enough to cope. This stopped in my second year when they built a brand new canteen.

PS I like Jamie Oliver and usually enjoy his stuff, BUT I did object to some of his strong language ..unneccessary IMHO.

This seems to be the trend nowadays. The whole world & his mother uses foul language whether or not it's justified which is why I rarely watch TV. I'm no prude & can swear & cuss to match any of them if the circumstances warrant it.

[commoner]

...mmm..Yes Hagar, I also know how to use "pit talk" as we used to call it "if the circumstances warrant it"...in this particular case though I don't...commoner  ;)

[Fozzer]

I remember my school dinners very well in the 1940's at the local Municipal Restaurant....*

Gristle Pie for dinner...
and slimy Semolina Pudding, (with jam), for pudding...

One of the many reasons why I now like to prepare and cook proper, tasty, nourishing meals for myself......!

Paul.

*..still have nightmares to this very day... ...!

[commoner]

I remember my school dinners very well in the 1940's at the local Municipal Restaurant....*

Gristle Pie for dinner...
and slimy Semolina Pudding, (with jam), for pudding...

One of the many reasons why I now like to prepare and cook proper, tasty, nourishing meals for myself......!

Paul.

*..still have nightmares to this very day... ...!

lol..OK Fozzer but this was in BARNSLEY. YORKSHIRE....I rest my case ..commoner  ;D

[Woodlouse2002]

What on earth is wrong with everybody! And we're banning bloody foxhunting (BTW. fox came in to the chicken coop last week ripping the heads off all the chickens but eating not one... - not one bloody chicken!)

If you like I can come and visit and shoot it for you. So far this year we've had to shoot three foxes that decided it was a good idea to kill our chickens.

Best thing to do is this, leave the chickens where he left them, in the coop. Position yourself with gun in hand where you can clearly see the chickens. Wait for the fox to return. Bang. End of problem.