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Could be another sad day.....

Postby xFLAMESx » Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:38 pm

.....for British heritage soon.

http://www.northwealdairfield.org/Campaign/campaign.html

Why doesn't somebody intervene. :-/
I submitted my objection, I have too many childhood memories watching the planes flying around North Weald to let this one slide :(

I'm certain I'm not the only who feels like the government could do something to save these airfields, they are a major part of our country's history.

Let's hope enough people object.

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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby legoalex2000 » Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:44 pm

i mean, some of us are in other countries (i'll use US as an example).

we arent in the same city, state, country, not even continent. does our opinion really count? just a question, cause if it does, i'm all for it.
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby xFLAMESx » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:04 pm

The more that object the better.
At the end of the day, it's killing some of the best airfields in the UK, and lord knows, could (and probably does) happen elsewhere.

I lived round the corner from this place for 20 years, that's my whole life, which is why I feel so strongly about it.
Would you, as an aviation enthusiast, want to see your local airfield destroyed?

As I say, the more support the better :)

Cheers,

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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby Scottler » Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:00 pm

I wish they'd plow over the local airport.  Perhaps then they could put a GOOD airport in its place!   ;)
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby Hagar » Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:01 am

North Weald has been under threat for many years. My view is that if the local council & the government have made up their minds there's not a lot anyone can do about it. The problem is that the land is worth a vast amount of money if put to other use. Pete Seeger's "Little Boxes" springs to mind.* Don't get me started on what government policy is doing to our country. The whole place will soon be covered with concrete if they have their way. If I said what I think I would be banned from this forum.

*PS. This says it better than I ever could.
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Little Boxes
by Malvina Reynolds, sung by Pete Seeger 1962

Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside,
Little boxes all the same,
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there's doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school,
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same.

And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same,
There's a green one and a pink one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same.

Words and music by Malvina Reynolds.
Copyright 1962, Schroder Music Company

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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby C » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:05 am

I took 15 minutes of so to comprehend the instructions then file an objection. What I really detest about this is how difficult making the objection is.

However, at least there is a well formed action group for North Weald, and if it is to be saved, this will be the way. The MP for Guildford agreed on that when I asked him about the plans for Wisley...

All I can say is that I hope we don't have another Hatfield/West Malling/Gravesend/Hornchurch on our hands. These airfields are some of the only physical reminders we have of WW2, and the sooner they go, the sooner certain elements of soceity will have an excuse to forget...

Charlie

PS. If any of our British users read this and haven't filled in the objection, please do. It should only take a maximum of 15 minutes, and hopefully with the extra audience this campaign will get from the internet, North Weald will be saved. Even I dragged myself away from here for that long...
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby Hagar » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:54 am

Maybe my cynicism is showing but I don't think they will take any notice of anyone living outside the local area. In my experience they will take very little notice of any petitions, even from people directly affected by the plans. I'll willingly put my name to anything that I think will do the slightest good.

To be honest I'm more worried about my local airport right now. I can't go into detail but I've discovered something in the last few days that doesn't fill me with confidence about its future. I hope I'm wrong but I fear that beautiful spot that I (& many others) have enjoyed for most of my life will soon be just another blot on the landscape. And so it goes on. :(
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby legoalex2000 » Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:05 pm

The more that object the better.
At the end of the day, it's killing some of the best airfields in the UK, and lord knows, could (and probably does) happen elsewhere.

I lived round the corner from this place for 20 years, that's my whole life, which is why I feel so strongly about it.
Would you, as an aviation enthusiast, want to see your local airfield destroyed?

As I say, the more support the better :)

Cheers,

Carl



man, if they tried to close O'Hare, i surely wouldn't be the only one complaining. ok, ok, my local airports, palwaukee & Schaumburg. i've got strong ties there. ties strong enough at one of them that they're holding my uncle's aircraft down. ;D :P

Hey, i'll be glad to fill out the forms, i was just wondering if i was actually any help living an ocean away.
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby Papa9571 » Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:18 pm

Guys....

Wasnt it the FS community that helped save Miegs Field in Chicago?

Could we do any less here as well?

For what it is worth I filed my objection even though I live in the US. I firmly believe we need to keep these reminders of our history around and viable so we dont forget our past.

Why you ask? Because those who dont remember history are doomed to repeat it and I for one do not want another conflict like that one.

When I talk to WW2 veterans I give them my heart felt thanks for their efforts, actions, and sacrifice during that conflict. If it wasnt for all of them,  Brits, Poles, Free French, Americans, Russians, Dutch, Canadians, Austrailians, Chinese, Indians, and all of the other allied countries that had troops involved, you and I would not be enjoying the lifestyle we so take for granted today. My heartfelt thanks go to all WW2 allied veterans.

Please help and take up the fight to help save this piece of history. Pilots from all allied countries flew from this field to defend our freedom and it's the least we can do to help save it.


Sorry but when it comes to things like this I get very passionate and I apologize if I didnt list your country but if i did this replay would take up two pages.
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby legoalex2000 » Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:49 pm

and did you forget, we didn't win in the end. i remember how many protests there were in front of Daley Plaza, heck, i was in one of them. but in the end, and i knew from the start, Daley would backstab chicago. he's just like his father.

anyway, i hope this doesn't end the same way meigs did
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby beaky » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:08 am

That animation makes my stomach turn... very sad. Reminds me that I heard recently that in the US, airports are vanishing at the rate of one a day... seems there may be new ones popping up, but they're mostly private. Between the greedy developers, their bought&paid -for politicians, the insurance companies, the media, and the lawyers, the glory of American General Aviation is being whittled down to nothing.   Other than my AOPA membership, I haven't done much myself to stop it, but when I start flying again, I plan to get more involved at whatever field I'm based at, at least. They're almost all under siege right now.

Thanx for the song, Hagar- damn, I hate the whole Tikky-Takky lifestyle thing, and all that it implies...!

Good luck over there!!
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby Papa9571 » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:27 pm

We may have lost that battle but if you remember we won the war.

The FAA now has to be notified before any field is removed or the developer will face hefty fines. As far as Miegs Field is concerned the FAA is still investigating and has found so far that the city violated federal regulation by the way they closed the airport. They may fine the city of Chicago for removing the field. The downside is they wont force the city to restore that lost treasure.
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Re: Could be another sad day.....

Postby Hagar » Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:39 pm

Property developers tend not to take much notice of the rules. If they can't get what they want legally they simply go ahead & do it anyway. Once you knock down a listed building you can hardly put it up again. It's gone for ever. The same goes for protected trees or anything else you can think of. You can read about these things happening almost every week in the newspapers. As for airports, Mayor Daley seems to have found a very effective way over that little problem. Even if the FAA eventually gets round to fining him he got what he wanted. The fine will be a small price to pay compared with the value of the land. I'm afraid there's no room for sentiment where big money & profit is involved.
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