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Re: Reincarnation

Postby Fozzer » Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:37 am

It's quite frightening to look in the mirror these days & see my Dad staring back at me. :o I get more like him every day too.


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Re: Reincarnation

Postby beefhole » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:18 pm

Nope :)

I just wrote this huge, long thing but I decided to remove it because it was pretty religious.
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby beaky » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:20 pm

Fortunately I look more like my mother (although I see more and more of HER father in the mirror every day), but I freak myself out sometimes after raising my voice- I sound just like the old man when I holler.  Whatever; it's not reincarnation, just DNA and some environmental factors.
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby Spitty42 » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:53 am

Well if you die, what happens though, you cant just go into thin air and just stop working you hqvae to go somewhere! >:(
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby Romulus111VADT » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:06 am

Nope :)

I just wrote this huge, long thing but I decided to remove it because it was pretty religious.


I've already expressed my views to a degree here- http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gen;action=display;num=1105016108

No need to start another flame war to further explain my beliefs on this subject. I'm quite sure no one would really care about them anyway.
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby mosquito633 » Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:19 am

I dont think the human mind can comprehend itself ceasing to exist.. I dont think it computes an imfinite nothingness...lol

i think its like thinking about space, it goes on and on forever, i often think there must be a barrier out there somewhere

are stopper on infinite nothing ;)
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby Spitty42 » Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:38 am

Yes that is right, the mind is a sensitive thing and it cant comprehend being used to think of being ended, its all too complicated to express or explain in your mind ???
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby Hagar » Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:54 am

Yes that is right, the mind is a sensitive thing and it cant comprehend being used to think of being ended, its all too complicated to express or explain in your mind ???

Exactly. It all comes down to a fear of death. Somehow the human brain has never been able to accept the finality of it. If a belief in all these things helps people come to terms with their own mortality I'm all in favour of it. I can't see much wrong with the idea of going to sleep & never waking up which is the way I visualise it. I enjoy life as it is & intend making the most of it while I can. ;)
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby beaky » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:21 am

Yup... won't know either way for sure until it happens (could be today! Who knows), but at worst, if one just winks out like a light bulb, one will never notice. No point in fretting about it.  One of the theories I like to roll around in my head sometimes is the idea that when one dies, one gets what one is expecting (harp and wings, virgins, demons w/pitchforks, another chance to overcome one's karma, etc.). Me, I want to be surprised. ;D  I did have a dream once where (I think) I died, and found myself in this state I cannot describe accurately- a feeling of being nowhere and everywhere at once. It was startling at first, but quickly became very pleasant. Just as I was getting my bearings, ready to go explore, I woke up, feeling bitterly disappointed. Just a dream, but never had one like it before or since. A state of pure being, and pure bliss.
  But I digress. Something that reminds me of reincarnation is deja vu. I used to get very strong moments of deja vu- one time, I had a dream where I was in a very specific place, and in that dream I was experiencing a feeling of  deja vu. A few days later, I found the whole thing unfolding as per the dream, down to the last detail.... (cue "Twilight Zone" theme...). makes you wonder. But the whole thing may have been a trick of the mind.... time and space mean nothing in the dark corners of the subconscious.
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby Saitek » Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:14 am

Interesting. One thing is for sure. A body is a body. We could make a body up, make up DNA strands and do all sorts of things, BUT there is one thing beyond comprehension. It is simply life. The spirit. How do you describe it? The thing which makes one tick? I dunno. But what is life? The beating of a heart? No. The running of blood in the veins? No. The electrical impulses along nerves? No.
What is it?  What is the living thing that lives inside us? A person dies...  the body is left. But the life has gone.. where? That is why I can't understand the evolutionary process. to have life you need life to start with. You can't start life without life. It is impossible.
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby Poseidon » Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:28 am

Well. I don't believe in the existence of "spirit" and spiritual world (although I believe it would be something very beautiful if existed).

Life is a combination of biochemical activity which stops when the mechanisms of "maintenance" cannot do their job any more. Just like a building decades and finally falls down when the "workers" cannot maintain it anymore.

From an moral point of view I believe this approach helps in eliminating the fear of death as for me death is the end of all. I live what I live and I do not worry avout what I will be in my next life or how I am going to be judged after death.

I respect every opinion but this is my belief.
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby Hagar » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:08 am

That is why I can't understand the evolutionary process. to have life you need life to start with. You can't start life without life. It is impossible.

Nature is the most amazing thing. I never cease to wonder at it. Life never stops but it's a constant cycle like everything else going on all around us. My views could be seen as controversial by some so I'll give you an example & leave it at that. Consider the humble mayfly. In its adult form it lives for several hours & no more than a couple of days. This creature spends its whole life preparing for this moment in time. During these few hours it doesn't eat, crawl or walk. Its whole purpose in life is to reproduce & propagate the species. When that job is done it dies. The body decomposes & the whole life cycle starts again. This is how I see evolution. No matter how clever we like to think we are we're no more important in the scale of things than the humble mayfly or any other form of life. http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2166.html
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby beefhole » Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:01 pm


I've already expressed my views to a degree here- http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=gen;action=display;num=1105016108

No need to start another flame war to further explain my beliefs on this subject.

It was for this exact reason I decided not to get into it ;)

However, what I had said in there before I deleted it was that I also believe the human mind is physically not capable of understanding what it is to be "nothing", because simply saying to be "nothing" is an oximoron. Those who don't believe in reincarnation don't try to understand what it's like (it's not like anything, you don't exist-see, it's complicated!), but simply accept that that's the way they believe it goes.

Of course, it may be true, it may not be.
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby alrot » Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:29 pm

I just hope that something exist beyond our death(i hope)because if it wouldn't ,life doesn't have a sense :-[
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Re: Reincarnation

Postby mosquito633 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:55 am

NO need to get or deep and heavy man what ever happens happens ;)
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