Low Lifes

[Hagar]

Some of these petty thieves & vandals are above the law. Their parents don't care about them & they have no moral values. I once watched helplessly as a bunch of youngsters, mainly girls, demolished the bus shelter opposite my home. I shouted at them & they dared me to go over & touch them. If I had done so they would have had me arrested for sexual assault or worse. I would probably have ended up in the local lock-up.

It was no use calling the police as this gang is well known to them. They are under-age so cannot be charged with anything. Of course, they are all too aware of that. They all come from disfunctional families & were moved into this area after continual complaints from their neighbours. Fortunately for me they have now been moved somewhere else to terrorise some other poor souls - & so it goes on ad infinitum.

As I said, I don't know what the answer is. Nor it seems does anyone else.

[ozzy72]

Hagar might I humbly suggest a .22 air-rifle and scope. The trick to not being observed is to hide well inside the room so all they can see is a shadow.... That way you can take potshots without being seen, oh and oil each round so there are no finger prints

Ozzy

[terbert]

;)

I never realised this thread would get so much response.
Hagar, I agree fully. We have the same here with youths. Known to the police but allowed to do what they want!!!.
Why have we a problem. Because there is no deterrent in this country.  What the majority feel and would like is overridden as usual by the minority of do-gooders.
Democracy !!!  Phhhhh   >:( >:(

Tony C

[Hagar]

I believe it all comes down to lack of self-discipline & respect for others. Something we were all taught by our parents when I was young. The majority of young people are pleasant, decent & law-abiding. As usual, it's the minority that gives them a bad name.The problem is that the minority seems to get bigger.

Add to this the centralisation of the police. When I was growing up we had a local bobby who lived in a police house in the community. Everyone knew & repected him & he knew everyone. If you did something wrong he would give you a slap with his cape & threaten to haul you off home for your parents to deal with. That was all that was necessary. If a copper did that now he would be sued for assault & possibly lose his job.

I can't remember the last time I saw a police officer walking the streets or even on a bike - certainly not this year. If I want one now I have to call the central office many miles away. By the time they get here the offenders have long since vanished. I get the feeling someone got it wrong somewhere.

[terbert]

 Hagar said
I can't remember the last time I saw a police officer walking the streets or even on a bike - certainly not this year.

I doubt you will mate, it's probably been nicked.

Again, totally agree. We had a local when I was a kid. He was a nice chap I found out years later, but at the time we were frightened of him and viewed him with great respect. In fact, when I got into trouble (minor stuff, not like today) my dad used to say to me " Mr Stapleton is after you, you had better go and see him."
AND WE WENT !!!! Got a clip round the ear and a rollocking, but it did us good. I do not regret it at all.

Tony C

[Hagar]

I doubt you will mate, it's probably been nicked.

LMAO..........! If that wasn't true it would be hilarious.

There might be a glimmer of hope on the horizon yet. What do you make of this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3512772.stm

Police chiefs promote push bikes


Forces say officers need training to do their job properly  
Police forces across England are sending hundreds of officers on push bike training courses.
But they say the lessons are about more than just teaching bobbies how to ride their bikes.

Constables will learn bike safety, handling skills and how to get on and off bikes to make an arrest.

One force has even enlisted the help of an American cycling expert from the International Police Mountain Bike Association to teach its officers.

All the kids around here are experts on their bikes. Quite why police officers should need to be taught how to ride one is beyond me. Stop the world - I wanna get off. LOL

[terbert]

Hagar, my friend,

I know what you are posting is serious, and appreciated, but on a lighter note, I am conjuring up all sorts of visions of how a policeman should get on and off a bike to make an arrest

I suppose ladies bikes would be best, so they don't have to cock their leg over. These would speed up the dismount imensely.  My god, what are they doing with our money Is it any wonder they get the finger up from the youth of today.

Tony C

[Hagar]

Hagar, my friend,

I know what you are posting is serious, and appreciated, but on a lighter note, I am conjuring up all sorts of visions of how a policeman should get on and off a bike to make an arrest

The mind boggles.

Don't worry. I try not to take life too seriously or I would probably have a nervous breakdown with all the daft ideas they come up with to spend my money on.

For example: Here's a quote from the above article I'm still having problems figuring out.

The bikes are also equipped with stopping devices, such as automatic locks, to facilitate the officers' work.

In my time the best stopping device was a foot in the front wheel spokes.

[terbert]

Hagar,

Are you really serious I cannot believe this sort of information is being issued. Geez, a three year old kiddie can get on, ride, and get off a bike.

Unfortunately, the foot in the front wheel job had a friend of mine and his father in hospital with quite serious injury. My friend was young and on the crossbar when he stuck his foot in. You can imagine the rest!!!

I am worried that when the police learn to get on and off their bikes and are let loose on the streets, this could lead to an increase in bike theft. As it would be 'in house' I suppose all resources would be diverted
to retrieving their bikes and away from real crime.

I really do despair. Do you know, we had a break-in at the Bar I run. I had a phone call from the monitoring company at 2.00am, I was on site by 2.10am. The police arrived at 6.30am (one officer). I don't know if you know the High Wycombe/Amersham/Beaconsfield/Marlow area
but he said they had only one car to cover this area.

Recently, when down at Poole, we were at a retail park, the car park overlooked the police station. I sat in the car waiting for her ladyship, we then sat and ate some lunch. total time was well over an hour and a half.
There were ten police cars on the station forecourt when we got there and when we left they were all still there.  I can only think they were all out on bike training

Tony