DON'T smoke and fly

[Hagar]

[quote]A famous someone once said . . . . . One cannot be intelligent and smoke at the same time. That is so true, and i don't care if you think it is discrimination, smoking is a absolutely filthy habit that will kill you in some form one day and second hand smoke is just as deadly as the smoke you breath . . . . . you made a choice to smoke, accept the consequenses and get over it.

[Politically Incorrect]

Absoultly Hagar!!!!
And thank you Hyperion, it seems that some non-smokers do have good common sense!
Once again I would like too point out because it will keep coming up, There is no evidence that anyone has ever died from second hand smoke!!!!!!!!!!!! Think about it if second hand smoke killed as easily as they try and make you belive then the average smoker would be dead in less than a week after starting!! I have read articles that claim that second-smoke is more deadly than the inital smoke that is inhaled by the smoker themself! How idiotic does this sound?
First the smoke is filtered , filtered again by the smokers lungs then exhaled, but somehow becomes more poisonous.
I'm no doctor, scientist, or what ever but a little common sense will tell you that that is a stupid theory plain and simple.
And as Hagar has stated " Unless they're perfect nobody has the right to judge others for their inadequacies.  "
True!!
But these are the same people that will be going out and joining the fraudulant lawsuits against McDonalds claiming that they had no idea that fatty foods were going to clog there arteries and kill them someday.

"People who eat fatty foods are disgusting and it serves them right to to get heartattacks and die."

See how stupid one sounds when judging someone elses life style?

Now I know someone is dying to say "But it doesn't harm others like second hand smoke does."

It does when that person has a heart attack while driving down the road, only more people are at risk!!! Actually being killed by this scenerio is probably more likely to happen!!!
So take your anti-smoking bullsh*t and shove it! If you don't like my smoke than you are too close for comfort for my liking!
Use all that wasted energy against smokers and put it too good use like complaining about the pollution that makes it impossible to see a beautiful city skyline, or the Mountain range off in the distance, the stars at night etc.
If your not so narrow minded you will quickly realize that second hand smoke should be the least of your problems!

Sorry had a fit of anger

[Hagar]

I didn't know what air pollution was until I visited LA some years ago. On venturing out of the air-conditioned environment of the airport terminal both me & my daughter were choking with tears running down our faces from the traffic fumes & found it difficult to breathe. Goodness knows how this would affect an asthma sufferer. On a trip to see the sights of Hollywood the smog was so thick that the famous Hollywood sign was completely obscured for the whole day.

I understand that it's now illegal to smoke a cigarette in the street in LA. This shows how pathetic the whole thing is.

[Politically Incorrect]

Second hand smoke CAN hurt people,  Andrew's grandmother for is a perfect example. Which is why it should be outlawed! yes you read right outlawed! in ALL public places! Smoking is a waste of time, money and people's lives. I feel bad for all of those who have been roped by the corporate giant.

I'm sorry that Andrew's Grandmother suffers from asthma, it isn't easy to deal with. But it is obvious that she knows what she must stay away from to prevent attacks, educated would be a good word. But he also didn't mention that suffering from asthma chances are good that she can't even go outside for any lengthy period without the possibility of a attack due to pollen,dust,pollution etc.
Don't start telling me that people who suffer from asthma suffer due to only second hand smoke.  
And as for being "roped in by the corporate giant" I wasn't! I started by peer pressure, it was the "cool" thing too do, I wasn't educated on the addictive factor of nicotine, I did it because it was the thing to do.
Advertising never had any effect on my decision to smoke. I can't see how it is possible so called "intelligent" people too be so heavily influanced by advertisments anyway. If seeing a ad makes you go out and start smoking then it is obvious that you are too stupid to leave the house!

[Smoke2much]

Smoking is a rather silly habit isn't it.  I personaly don't smoke anywhere that it is prohibited, kudos to Ryan air for banning them.  As for the slur on my intelligence from Poly.....  :P

If I wasn't intelligent I would not be able to type this.  I would also attempt to force my beliefs on others all the time, which I don't.

[aeronut]

We used to fly 12-13 hour sorties in the Neptune-ashtrays were a standard fit and we never lost one crew member
Live and let Live eh Hyp- but with due consideration to others

[BFMF]

[quote]I'm sorry that Andrew's Grandmother suffers from asthma, it isn't easy to deal with. But it is obvious that she knows what she must stay away from to prevent attacks, educated would be a good word. But he also didn't mention that suffering from asthma chances are good that she can't even go outside for any lengthy period without the possibility of a attack due to pollen,dust,pollution etc.
Don't start telling me that people who suffer from asthma suffer due to only second hand smoke.

[Politically Incorrect]

I asked my mom about it, and cigerette smoke is about the only thing she she gets allergic reactions to. It may be hard to believe, but it's the truth

No I don't find it hard too believe, some who suffer from asthma have attacks triggered by specific things. Most that I know, any of the possibles including smoke of any kind can cause a attack. I even know people who are just allergic to smoke and start a sneezing fit when ever they are around it.
And like I stated she is educated enough to know to stay away from places that smoking my be taking place. Unlike the other people who just think they own the world and everything should be the way they want it or they will place blame on the smoker for all their problems.

If they get their wish smoking will become illegal and then they will start bitching about the fact that taxes are raised that they now have too pay, because the extra revenue is no longer coming in from the smoker. And the Government will have to find some way to help support the hundreds of thousands of families that will become homeless because of it, think about all those families and their children that won't have food on the table or a roof over their head all because they are farmers, factory workers etc,  trying to make a living for themselves and their families!

[Scottler]

One day, all of these health nuts are going to be lying in their hospital beds, dying of nothing...

[IcedFoxtrotter]

I personaly couldn't make myself smoke if I wanted to.  I had an aircraft sysems class last year which was taught by an A&P.  He brought in an air filter that was in an aircraft which belonged to a smoker.  It was coated with this gross black ooze.  We had a woman in the class that used to be a nurse and she said that the buildup was always worse on the inside of the lungs.

I am a pilot and one cigarette can add the equivelent of 4,000 plus feet to your bodies equivelent altitude.  Also, the cigarette smoke displaces oxygen that would otherwise be in your lungs further robbing you.

To be frank, after looking at that stuff in the filter, I would rather inhale crude oil than a cigarette, because the stuff was even thicker than crude.


I'm not puting you smokers down here like eveyone else, I am simply telling you why I won't personaly smoke.

[Politically Incorrect]

GOOD FOR YOU! And Thank you!
Like I have said I don't force my habit on no one and encourage people not to start!!
It is a nasty addiction, I don't like the word "Bad Habit" because picking your nose is a bad habit, smoking is a addiction and not a easy one to quit!!
I have tried many times and failed, and will probably try many more, someday I will be smoke free and then people will maybe look at me as a better person and show me the respect that I show them.

[Hagar]

I don't like the word "Bad Habit" because picking your nose is a bad habit, smoking is a addiction and not a easy one to quit!! I have tried many times and failed, and will probably try many more,

As with all adictions, smoking affects people in different ways. I'm convinced that I could quit now if I really wanted to. The fact is that I enjoy smoking & am not ashamed of it. I am not breaking any laws by doing so. I also like to think that I'm considerate enough of other people's feelings that I don't affect them or force them to smoke against their will.

someday I will be smoke free and then people will maybe look at me as a better person and show me the respect that I show them.

I just wish others with habits or beliefs that I find equally offensive were as considerate towards me. ::)

I don't want to quit & resent being discriminated against because of my habit/addiction - whatever you like to call it. The more I'm lectured by well-meaning but misguided people the more I'm determined to carry on doing it. This is what these do-gooders fail to understand. There are far more important things to worry about than persecuting a section of the community for doing something they enjoy. I've never met anyone yet without some sort of vice & there are far worse vices than smoking.

I'm sorry to go on about this but it's something I feel very strongly about. Too many people seem to get satisfaction from meddling in other people's affairs these days. Ban this, ban that - don't eat this, don't eat that. I suggest they get a life & worry about what they're doing. People who live in glass houses & all that. I'll do what I like thank you very much & it's none of their darned business......!

I also feel that it's highly dangerous to smoke on an aircraft. This is a completely different matter.

[Politically Incorrect]

Agree 100% Hagar!! I'm with you on that!
It is so true that they don't understand that the more they complain the more I like to do it. I have never and will never let anyone tell me what I can and cannot do, eat, say, read etc.
Sort of like telling a child he/she can't do something, that child will then go out of the way to prove you wrong! And then be more than happy to sufffer the consequences all because they accomplished what they were told they couldn't ! Some call it being stubborn, well then that is me

[Hagar]

Sort of like telling a child he/she can't do something, that child will then go out of the way to prove you wrong! And then be more than happy to sufffer the consequences all because they accomplished what they were told they couldn't !

My point exactly.

As an intelligent, responsible & law-abiding adult I also resent being treated like a child & insulted by people with far less experience of the world than me.

Some call it being stubborn, well then that is me

Cantankerous, pig-headed or just downright stubborn. You're talking to the past master. This is the Grumpy credo. Welcome to the club.

[Politically Incorrect]

Cantankerous, pig-headed or just downright stubborn. You're talking to the past master. This is the Grumpy credo. Welcome to the club.

Thank you! And I'm proud too be a member!!
I enjoy being the thorn is society's ass!