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Knighthood question

Postby Meinas » Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:43 am

During Queen Anne's reign, Isaac Newton was knighted, whose's sword was used for this ceremony? ???

Is there anyway to find out about this?, I've been looking around the internet and nothing helpful yet. :'(
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Re: Knighthood question

Postby Politically Incorrect » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:28 am

I think Mick Jaggar has it? ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Knighthood question

Postby Polynomial » Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:04 am

you could try google answers ( a special link off google) they charge between 2 bux and 50 bux depending on how detailed the answer is and they do almost anything.
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Re: Knighthood question

Postby Hagar » Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:30 am

Interesting question. I must admit that the thought had never occurred to me. I know very little on this subject as it means very little these days, except to the recipient. The ceremony itself would depend on the order (category) of knighthood. It seems that in some cases the recipient can choose the sword.

Here's a short explanation of the the different orders. Some are recent additions & would not have applied in Isaac Newton's time.

Orders of Chivalry
The principal orders are listed as follows in order of precedence, noting initials to be placed after the name.

The Most Noble Order of the Garter (1348 ). The Queen is Sovereign of the Order. Five members of the royal family are Ladies of the Order or Royal Knights, and there are 24 Knights and Lady Companions including three ex-Prime Ministers. Six foreign monarchs are at present Extra Knights Companions and Ladies. Initials KG or LG.

The Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle (revived 1687). The Queen is Sovereign of the Order and Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, Lady of the Thistle. There are two Royal Knights and 16 Knights. Initial KT.

The Most Honourable Order of the Bath (1725) is awarded in recognition of conspicuous services to the Crown and has two divisions, military and civil. The Order takes its name from the symbolic bathing which in former times often formed part of the preparation of a candidate for knighthood. Ranks in the order are Knight or Dame Grand Cross (GCB), Knight or Dame Commander (KCB or DCB) and Companion (CB).

Awards to Foreign Nationals
Foreign nationals and citizens of Commonwealth countries of which the Queen is not head of state may be admitted to honorary membership of British orders but do not style themselves 'Sir' because they do not receive the accolade. They may, however, place the appropriate letters after their name.
Recent American recipients of honours include New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and film director Steven Spielberg (Knights Commanders of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire), former Presidents George Bush and Ronald Reagan (Knights Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath), Generals Norman Schwarzkopf and Colin Powell (Knights Commanders of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath), Caspar Weinberger (Knight Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire), and New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik and New York Fire Department Commissioner Thomas Von Essen (Commanders of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire).


The official British Monarchy website might provide more information. http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page489.asp
Note that Sir Francis Chichester was dubbed with Sir Francis Drake's sword in 1967.
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Re: Knighthood question

Postby Meinas » Wed Mar 10, 2004 4:23 pm

thanks for the response, I couldn't find any I was looking for, but its also ancient specific information, so I may never know :'(
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Re: Knighthood question

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:02 pm

I thought they would just use the closest sword to hand. Though I presume its not the same these days. Not many people carry swords in hampden court now...
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