Fox's take on the BBC...

[Hagar]

I don't read newspapers here, but i think a better paper to realte this with would be The Sun (also owned by Rupert Murdoch i believe )

I agree. I think the Sun is a far more accurate comparison. No more than an adult comic, although it contains more fantasy that your average comic.

[Oso]

Just listen to yourselves. You are up in arms about his criticism of the BBC, and in the same breath you are criticising Fox and America in the same manner.

All he is doing is returning the favor for all the abuse the BBC has heaped on the US since the start of the war. Hmmm.

This thread should not have been posted in the first as being too political and locked down as many have been lately. Many that were less inflammatory. BUt I guess the rules vary, depending upon which side of the pond you are from.

After watching this site for awhile now this is the conclusion I have arrived at. That and the fact that you all have have latent tendencies to anti-Americanism.

I have had enough.

Toodles - Ta Ta - Bye Bye

BTW this post will not show who did it after I delete my account, I think, so I will sign out as


Oso, One Damn Proud Yank

[Hagar]

After watching this site for awhile now this is the conclusion I have arrived at. That and the fact that you all have have latent tendencies to anti-Americanism.

This is quite wrong as I have always been & still am pro-American. I defy anyone to find anything in one of my posts here that says otherwise.

I'm simply expressing my own opinion as I see it. The fact is that the Fox News report is completely untrue. This was an internal matter that had nothing whatsoever to do with America. If criticising politicians is seen as unpatriotic or anti-anything so be it.

[Craig.]

couple of comments.
Firstly i am not anti american myself if i was i wouldnt be looking to move there. My only critisim is of the government some times, much like our own government of which i

[pete]

One thing Fox likes to overlook is that criticism is the very basis of democracy.
& by Fox News's definition -

[Omag 2.0]

I agree with CraigL. It's not anti-amercanism that thrives me to comment on the behaviour of FOX. I would do the same thing when it was a Belgian station. I just think one should be able to express he disaggrees with a point of view, without beeing accused of beeing agains a nation or person.

Letv us just keep an open mind and open eyes!

I rest my case and crawl into a virtual cockpit...

[Jaffa]

Since I basically watch Fox News 24/7, I seem to be out of the loop.  I am curious how many of you have watched Fox News.  I have seen BBC maybe once, and that is not enough for me to make an assumption on the BBC.  If you have not seen Fox News, then I think we both cannot jump to conclusions without the facts.  

I was watching that live when it happened(Woody's clip).  Fox does its share of Governmental bashing.  

Watching Fox News,

Jaffa

P.S.  This seems to be a one-sided fight because I'm the only American left fighting here!!!

P.P.S.  Not many Americans watch the news anyway, at least not my generation.  They are addicted to MTV, which shows nothing but rubbish all day. :-/

[Craig.]

Watched it pleanty of times when i was in the states, And its also used by sky news on occasions to cover live news storys in america that their teams cant get to in time like the washington sniper incident.
I try to avoid all news channels unless i am desperate for news, as they have all become to politically motivated, much the same reason i dont read the papers anymore.As for MTV i try to avoid that too:)

[Hagar]

[quote]P.S.

[Politically Incorrect]

P.S.  This seems to be a one-sided fight because I'm the only American left fighting here!!!

P.P.S.  Not many Americans watch the news anyway, at least not my generation.  They are addicted to MTV, which shows nothing but rubbish all day. :-/

Not the only American, maybe fighting though:)

I must admit that I used to watch Fox news on a regular basis, but no longer do because of the fact that I find the way they deliver it to be like the "Check-out line rags".
When I first started watching it , it was good news and very unbiased. It gave you the story and allowed you to come to your own conclusions. But to me it now seems very one sided and opinionated and any "news" service should not be like that! They should report the news to the masses and not thier own personal opinion.
If they want to voice personal opinion join a forum like this, where personal opinion is not only allowed but accepted with open arms.
I personally don't watch the news in any form(on tv) now just because the content they focus on is the same content that gets me pissed and then I come here to "TheV" to vent and share my attitude with the result of people here getting pissed at me

So no I don't watch the news on TV but perfer to get it from the Web where I have the choice of what stories I want to know about, not what TV executives think should be shoved down my throat. And I also get allot from this forum, links to stories from around the world that TV news would not provide, stories that should be showen and stories that are worth talking about, and stories that I have the choice in looking further into.

As far as the BBC (Or "The Beeb" to which that moron on the clip called it) I have watched the news there and I have watched news from many other sources and no matter where it comes from , who shows it or what part of the world it is. All news on TV voices the opinion of those who run it, or who are allowed to appear on it and so in that is biased!
The news should stick to the story and the truth and leave the opinions to those who watch.
Not as a platform to one persons opinion, which will be recieved by the people watching as the truth or the way it is!

God Bless the internet for giving me the choices of what I get to see, hear and read, and giving me the ability to seek out the news I'm interested in and only the news I'm interested in. And not being forced the news that someone else "Thinks or Feels" is what I need!

[Jaffa]

I think that sadly, much of it is about MONEY!

Everything is about money. like it or not.


Craig:  You must have had digital cable or satellite huh?

Hagar:  I love international understanding and friendship!  

Still, I would like to know what the BBC really did report.

[Craig.]

standard cable:) we get Sky News, and BBC news 24.
We used to get CNN and NBC but they moved over to digital.

[Hagar]

As far as the BBC (Or "The Beeb" to which that moron on the clip called it)

The BBC is fondly known as "Auntie Beeb" to viewers in the UK. That's a little different to the sneering way in which that so-called news reporter referred to it.

The BBC is publicly funded & therefore every licence holder in the UK owns part of it. It's one of the better news services, famous for its unbiased approach & justly proud of its reputation. If anything it's been accused of being left-wing in recent times so should in theory favour the present British government. I won't comment further in case I get too political here & cause this thread to be locked or deleted.

Like any similar organisation the BBC makes mistakes which nobody is pretending didn't happen on this occasion. Taking the full blame for those events is taking things too far & most people here believe the official enquiry was a complete whitewash. There was almost certainly some truth in what they were saying in the news reports in question. The management stuck to their guns & refused to withdraw the accusations. The fact that heads were going to roll because of this was quite clear from the outset. I'm not alone in feeling that the government twisted the knife too far by insisting on an apology on top of the resignations of senior management & the reporter concerned. The BBC will take a long time to recover (if it ever does) & whatever happens I suspect it will end up a pale shadow of its former self for some time to come. As I said before, I feel this was a sad day for freedom of speech.

[Hagar]

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Hagar:

[Jaffa]

I might say also, seeing his show, he really is not a news reporter.  He mostly concentrates on legal aspects of news events.  That snippet is from the very end of the program where he expresses his opinion.  The mail he read the next day had lots of offended Brits writing in!  I personally don't like him...I prefer Shepard Smith(pure news), and some of the political debate programs.  

Do give Fox Credit, whenever they can, they have on a representative from both sides of most stories they report, and of course they always end up arguing while the anchor watches, and it all leads to microphone shut offs/commercial break.

Craig,  are you sure we are both talking about standard cable in the United States?

(at 8ET here on Thursdays, we get Premeirship soccer...mostly Man U(rah rah rah! ) tonight:  Southhampton vs. Man U)

I always have been fascinated with the UK.  I'll make it there...someday!