Thiefs

[Donnie111]

Just courious because today some people broke in to my mothers (whos home from a surgery) house and took her money driverslicence bank pass and more stuff.
I think those stupid ***************** are to lazy to work. So they steal from people who really need their stuff en worked for it. It sickens me!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donovan

[Hagar]

I think this poll is pointless so I won't bother to vote. Like most people here (I imagine) I despise thieves & villains of all sorts.

[Smoke2much]

Thieies are wan*ers.

[ozzy72]

Donnie I hope your mum is okay?
Frankly I wouldn't normally comment on something like this, but having being burgled three times I think that the Saudis have the right idea

Ozzy

[Katahu]

There is a difference between the term "Thieves" and "Crooks".

Thieves only desire to steal from the rich people. Thieves are selective [meaning they take their time and choose carefully]. Thieves always plan ahead. They always seem to have a backup plan in case anything goes wrong. And they are very careful. They sometimes get away with their crimes if they know the justice system well.

Crooks only desire to steal from anybody no matter who. They are never selective so they steal anything in their sights. They never plan ahead. They never have a backup plan. Even if they do a backup plan, their plans tend to be too drastic and unecessary. They are never careful and are always sloppy with their work. And they never manage to get away with their crimes.

So basically, for you guys who say you have been robbed, you have been robbed by crooks and not thieves.

There was once a thief whose favorite piece of wealth is Sterling Silver. Because of this, he was dubbed the "Sterling Thief". He always carefully enters a home by gently cutting glass [he always goes through the windows].

He once broke into a home owned by a rich couple in the middle of the night. That couple had a case of Sterling Silver eating utinsles. He took the case out of the house, took out the utinsles and left the case behind. Even with the case left behind, it was useless for investigators because the guys wore gloves and left no evidense whatsoever. Not only that, he always THROWS AWAY his tools-of-the-trade into a garbage dump and nobody ever suspected that. He was caught three times, but he is STILL being set free because he knew the system.

Another thief was nicknamed "Spiderman" because of this ability to CLIMB tall buildings [especially condos] in the middle of the night. And this theif was here in Miami. Long ago, residents who lived in hotels or condos usually left their back doors open [the sliding types]. This allowed the Spiderman to cleverly sneek in by climbing [with his bare hands and feet] up to as high as 10 stories. And most of the condos didn't have anything that would allow anyone to climb that high.

Eventually he was caught. I don't know when he's gonna be free though. Here in Florida, the punishment doesn't seem to be enough for clever theives like him.

So, you should have started a topic about Crooks and not Thieves. The crooks are the ones that are lazy because they never bother of being prepared and they're stupid.

[Hagar]

There is a difference between the term "Thieves" and "Crooks".

Katahu. You seem to know an awful lot on this subject.

I couldn't care less what they like to call themselves. Any low-life I catch trying to steal anything of mine or my neighbours would have considerable trouble walking for a few weeks afterwards - & to hell with the consequences. I can guarantee that. LOL

[Katahu]

Katahu. You seem to know an awful lot on this subject.

NO...I'm NOT a thief or a crook if that's what you are thinking.

I just happen to know some things about them. I have a strange habit of knowing some things and that's it. And sometimes I hate that.

[Hagar]

NO...I'm NOT a thief or a crook if that's what you are thinking.

Glad to hear it. I was only joking.

As a matter of interest I typed the word "thief" in Dictionary.com. This is one definition.
[quote]thief

n : a criminal who takes property belong to someone else with the intention of keeping it

Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law,

[ozzy72]

Any low-life I catch trying to steal anything of mine or my neighbours would have considerable trouble walking for a few weeks afterwards - & to hell with the consequences

Hagar are you and I related? Just when I caught two charming young gypsy gentlemen trying to burgle my elderly next door neighbour a couple of years ago I gave them a quick lesson in good manners (shouldn't wave a knife at me, it only makes me angry ).
When the police turned up one was unconcious, and the other semi-concious with me trying to tear his arm off while feeding my steel toe-capped para boot up his nose. The police asked what the **** had happened, to whit I replied "I gave them a jolly stiff talking too!" the police asked "What the **** would you have done if you'd shouted?"
Oddly the Hungarian police took the view that I was protecting an elderly lady, and then practicing self-defence. It wasn't my fault I had the toe-caps in
Hungarian policemen, jolly nice chaps who believe in justice

Ozzy

[Hagar]

Hagar are you and I related?

LOL I doubt it. I'm not a violent person & usually give trouble a wide berth. Some things make me mad & when I get mad you wouldn't want to know me.

Hungarian policemen, jolly nice chaps who believe in justice

I fear it's no longer the same here. I'm reasonably confident I would be charged with assault & battery, causing grievous bodily harm or whatever & end up doing time in one of Her Majesty's prisons. I'm quite prepared to do this if necessary.

Unfortunately, the creeps that tried to steal my property would get off scott free & most likely sue me for a vast amount of damages on legal aid. This on account of the fact that the terrible injuries I inflicted upon them make them no longer fit for work. The powers-that-be don't seem able to get their heads round the fact that the work they're allegedly incapable of doing is burglary, which I always understood was a criminal offence.

Then the shrinks start wondering what made me do it in the first place. I have the feeling they got it wrong somewhere although I can't quite put my finger on it.

[ozzy72]

I know all about this pinko-sociology rubbish we seem to have picked-up in the UK. Whilst things are a little rougher here than at home (although from what I hear and read maybe not!), at least they accept self-defense as reasonable cause.
Alas until people start accepting responsibility as well as wobbling on about rights, well 'nuff said.......
Although one of my cousins in the Met. did tell me a funny story about a burglar he caught red-handed (the guy was climbing out the window with the bag!), and when it went to court and he found out who the magistrate was he was not happy as she had a habit of letting burglars loose for about tuppence bail, and the guy he caught went in, and she wouldn't give him bail (much to everyones amazement). Turned out she'd been burgled that weekend and finally understood what it felt like

[Hagar]

Although one of my cousins in the Met. did tell me a funny story about a burglar he caught red-handed (the guy was climbing out the window with the bag!), and when it went to court and he found out who the magistrate was he was not happy as she had a habit of letting burglars loose for about tuppence bail, and the guy he caught went in, and she wouldn't give him bail (much to everyones amazement). Turned out she'd been burgled that weekend and finally understood what it felt like

LMAO  ;D
I don't blame the police as they do an extremely difficult job with their hands tied. I'm afraid this is the only way politicians & the judiciary will begin to realise how the ordinary person feels about all this. Maybe we should arrange for them to get some first-hand knowledge.

Oops - hush my mouth. Now look what you made me do. I'm planning a criminal offence. I could be put away for this.  ;)

[Woodlouse2002]

There is a difference between the term "Thieves" and "Crooks".

I'm afraid that I am going to have to lable what you have said as complete rubbish.

Thieves will steal anything of value. Sometimes they plan sometimes they don't. Crooks I would lable as fraudsters etc. I do not class a crook as someone who breaks into other peoples houses to steal. More often they will use fraud, blackmail and other methods to get money.

And also let me just add that most burglers are trying to support habit of some sort. I'm not trying to defend what they do but explain why they do it.

I must say though that there are few things better than a properly planned heist. Like the Great Train Robbery for example. A bank robbery that is well planned out and flawlessly executed is in my opinion pure genius.

[Katahu]

Well Woodlouse. What I said on that post is my view. You can keep your view while I keep mines.

The people who commit fraud I would always clasify them as low-lifes or fraudsters or blackmailers.

You're right crooks can also be those who commit fraud and such.

For those who rob banks or jewelry stores, I would classify them as bandits.

Long ago, sometime in the 1990's, there was a group of guys who were always called "The 30-Second Bandits". Or was it 60 seconds?

Anyways, these guys earned that nickname because whenever they broke into a bank there was always one guy holding a watch to keep track on how many seconds went by. Durring that time, the others had to steal anything that seems valuable. When the time runs out, they leave.

Oh, and yes they did use firearms [but they were empty. no time to shooting anyways]. And just like the Sterling Thief, they always threw away their tools-of-the-trade. Eventually, they were caught. But they'll be free soon because they never fired a shot or harmed anyone [duh...no bullets and no time].

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

There was also a group of guys who were professional thieves. They broke into a museum that housed the Stone of India and the Saphire Stone and such. When they were caught, it was near impossible to sentence them to jail because of all the publicity they recieved.

Think about it. Those guys are rich, young, well educated, and so on. So they became celebrities of their own crime.

Edit: Pardon me. It wasn't called the Stone of India, it was called the Star of India.

Gee, I always wonder why I know so much about this topic.

[Hagar]

I can only repeat the legal definition of a thief.
[quote]thief

n : a criminal who takes property belong to someone else with the intention of keeping it

Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law,