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12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Mr. Bones » Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:30 pm

we all know the Wright brothers who actually built and flew with the first motorised plane ever. of course, they didn't invent their Wright Flyer between lunch and dinner ::)
no, thanks to many other pioneers, they managed to fulfil man's dream: flying like a bird!
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Jared » Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:46 pm

Dude man! That's cool! Only one problem...you forgot a VERY important person to the wright's can you tell me who he is???




Why it's Octave Chanute of course!  ;)
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:52 pm

Mr.Bones
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Some very interesting History there.

Keep it up.

Maybe we should have a History Forum?????

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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Mr. Bones » Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:56 pm

[quote]Dude man! That's cool! Only one problem...you forgot a VERY important person to the wright's can you tell me who he is???




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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby ozzy72 » Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:00 pm

Nice work Ken (especially the pics), and I bet you didn't learn a single bit of this in school during history lessons ;D

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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Fly2e » Tue Dec 16, 2003 3:40 pm

Thanks Ken for that!
It was very interesting!!

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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby BFMF » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:00 pm

Interesting stuff ;)
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Sock » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:21 pm

Thanks man.  I need interesting stuff like this after school. :)

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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:36 pm

The first guy, George Cayley is the inventor of the airplane. In 1853 his flying machine, piloted by his cheuffer flew 50 years before the wright brothers did. Also there are extracts from his notes that say he managed to fly another machine before that, in 1808. So there you go. The airplane is another british invention. If he was alive later on (When there were steam trains) and if he'd had access to a small enough engine then he would have invented powered flight too.

He also invented, an artificial hand, a form of parachute, caterpillar tracks and the bicycle wheel. ;D
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Hagar » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:48 pm

The first guy, George Cayley is the inventor of the airplane.

I think he would have called it an aeroplane or maybe an "aerial carriage" as I don't believe the description itself was in use at that time :P

Whatever success he might have had, Cayley didn't "invent" the aeroplane. Man had been dreaming of emulating the birds for 100s if not 1,000s of years before his time. I'm sure someone like Leonardo would have had some success if he'd had a suitable power source. Many people contributed to the Wright Bothers' success. I'm sure they knew it & acknowledged it. What is important is that they did it & recorded it. :D
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Wing Nut » Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:55 pm

The first guy, George Cayley is the inventor of the airplane. In 1853 his flying machine, piloted by his cheuffer flew 50 years before the wright brothers did. Also there are extracts from his notes that say he managed to fly another machine before that, in 1808. So there you go. The airplane is another british invention. If he was alive later on (When there were steam trains) and if he'd had access to a small enough engine then he would have invented powered flight too.

He also invented, an artificial hand, a form of parachute, caterpillar tracks and the bicycle wheel. ;D


Well, now we've had the Brits, the Aussies, the Germans, the French, and the Chinese (that's all I know of) that have tried to claim the title of 'First Flight'  Anyone else want a go?  I'm sure the Iraqis will at some point...  :) ;D
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Polynomial » Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:20 pm

thanx for that it was most interesting! :D
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Professor Brensec » Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:10 pm

Duuno about the Iraqis, Pippin, unless you want to include 'magic carpets'.  ;D ;)

Seriously now. I think the inventor of the internal combustion engine deserves a reasonable degree of thanks (not credit, per se), as powered flight would not have been remotely possible without the 'relatively' lightweight  engine, as opposed to the alternatives like the steam engine.  ;D ;)
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Katahu » Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:17 am

Alight ladies and gentlemen. As of midnight [right now] it is now officially Dec. 17 here in the East coast of the good old US of A.

I am tired of hearing about countries wanting to take credit of having the flight in their own land.

I don't care what France, Germany, the Aussies, the Chinese, or what the Brits say. The US has absolute proof that the First CONTROLLED and POWERED Flight happened here in the Good Old US of A.

At least those other countries will recieve credit for making the first NON-POWERED flight with the gliders.

Those countries know that it's easy to make gliders. They also know that it's NOT easy to power those gliders or control them.

However, there is only ONE person [other than the brothers] in which I give my total thanks to. And that person is Leonardo de Vinci. All thanks to that genius.
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Re: 12 seconds that changed the world

Postby Professor Brensec » Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:02 am

Surely, Katahu, there must be some room in your 'hall of fame' for the deserving Mr Daimler and his Internal Combustion Engine, without which all the planes would still be sitting on the ground. (At least until the Jet engine was developed).  ;D ;)

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Although there were a number of people over many years that contributed to the ICE by way of inventing, developing and building various types of combustion engines powered by, again various, types of flammable mixtures. Daimler's ICE is generally considered to be the prototype of the 'modern ICE', as used today.  ;D ;)

There were people of many Nationalities involved over the years, including: German (Mr Daimler), English, French, Austrian, Belgian, Dutch, Swiss and yes, there was even an American (Brayton), who developed an unsuccessful 2-stroke engine, which ran on kerosene. ;D ;)
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