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Re: star trek mistake

Postby HawkerTempest5 » Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:58 am

I would be Commander Ryker. He gets in on all the away missions, gets in lots of fights and gets all the best looking women ;)
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby Scott_McCloud » Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:32 pm

:(

   Sounds in space? Oh well, that's Hollywierd for ya!
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby Lethal.Ambition » Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:03 pm

Boo yah!

I am the tactical officer

Watch out! :D
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby chomp_rock » Sat Dec 06, 2003 8:51 pm

Its the same with all space movies. Unfortunatly some people are not smart enough (Mainly hollywood fools) to relise that a powerfull laser would only make a small hissing sounds and 50/60hz buzzes. I think movies and computer games would be 100x better if they made ONLY those sounds  and made no sounds in space. But thats just me, I'm a stickler for realism,
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby flyboy 28 » Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:56 am

Yeah, as I recall, in Star Wars, the was a lot of fire in space... How can there be fire if there's no oxygen (or O2 for you scientific types...:P) to fuel it?

And for the sound, you can't have sound with no air for the waves to travel on... :-/
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby WebbPA » Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:43 pm

The sound thing is an intentional mistake because it would seem strange to an earthling not to hear a sound.  Haven't you noticed that the Enterprise "wooshes" while travelling in space?

Looking out the windows the stars move at a pace that the ship could not possibly maintain.  To give you a sense of motion the producers can't just let them sit there.

2001 was much more realistic.  No unexplained artifical gravity for one thing. When Bowman crashes into the airlock there is no sound because there is no air.  But you wouldn't come back every week to watch a series based on 2001.
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby Craig. » Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:00 pm

urmm those arnt stars that woosh past, its space dust thats magically bright:) and i would be more concerned that they travel in the wrong direction relative to the ships movement, especially on the next gen. The briefing room is where it happens most, the room is located on the side of the enterprise D and so the stars should move from right to left yet they move away from the ship, so unless the ship is warping sideways:)
like i said at the start, i am aware it was to avoid it getting boring, i was just confirming that it couldnt be heard if it were to become a reality:)
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby Professor Brensec » Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:48 pm

yes the charachter sulu was also from japan.
yes brensec your almost correct. Sulu wasnt used for weapons unless checkov was busy and vicea versa
remember guys who want tactical apart from DS9 where major kira took the role with odo, you'd also have to assume head of security:)

as for the airpistol i just looked it up, they could have used a tape recorder and played it back for all i know:)


Thanks mate, I didn't catch onto the bit about the Tactical person also being Head of Security on all the ships. (Not DS9, being a Station instead).  8) :o

The playing of sounds backwards on tape recorders was a very oft used effect in the mid '60's, thanks to the Beatle's (or rather George Martin) and their pioneering work in the Studio getting weird and wonderful new sounds and effects from doing this sort of thing.
It obviously flowed over into all areas of sound recording after the effects were heard by the multitudes.   ;)

Just a little 'tidbit' for the uninitiated!  ;D ;)
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby RitterKreuz » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:59 pm

i would be an intergalactic male prostitute!

star wars has those outside sounds too... space movies would suck if there was no dramatic sound effects!
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby Black ZR-1 » Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:53 pm

People, people! Of course they're gonna have sound effects in space! It's Hollywood!!! w/o the sound effects it wouldn't sound right (no pun intended)
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby SabreHawk » Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:41 am

Hmmm,(Raises eyebrow, scratches chin) Interesting,........according to scientfic study, sound being the result of vibrations, in order to be heard by the human ear must hve a medium by which to reach the ear( air, water ect.) So in the void of space it is said to not be audible.
However(cocks head, raises eyebrow), since no one has actually had an open ear to the void of space,( and lived to tell about it) to test out this theory, it is unproven. So it may be that the vibration may very well travel anyway, through a void and reach an ear and be heard.
Hmmm,( raises eyebrow again, & folds arms) it may very well be also that in the void of space, that sound vibrations with nothing to impede their movement,..........may travel quite easily and upon striking the eardrum.............would be heard by it as a sound. ::)  Interesting,.................most interesting. ::)

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Re: star trek mistake

Postby FLYING_TRUCKER » Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:54 pm

Hey Sabrehawk
I am voting for you for science officer if this ever goes to a poll ;D
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby SabreHawk » Thu Dec 11, 2003 7:54 pm

::)Hmmm, Intreresting ::)
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby Professor Brensec » Thu Dec 11, 2003 8:54 pm

[quote]Hmmm,(Raises eyebrow, scratches chin) Interesting,........according to scientfic study, sound being the result of vibrations, in order to be heard by the human ear must hve a medium by which to reach the ear( air, water ect.) So in the void of space it is said to not be audible.
However(cocks head, raises eyebrow), since no one has actually had an open ear to the void of space,( and lived to tell about it) to test out this theory, it is unproven. So it may be that the vibration may very well travel anyway, through a void and reach an ear and be heard.
Hmmm,( raises eyebrow again, & folds arms) it may very well be also that in the void of space, that sound vibrations with nothing to impede their movement,..........may travel quite easily and upon striking the eardrum.............would be heard by it as a sound. ::)
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Re: star trek mistake

Postby SabreHawk » Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:30 pm

Hmmm,(raises eyebrow, and smiles) The Professor has spoken. ;D(Cocks head, scratches chin, folds arms..........and walks slowly away to quarters to ponder.)I shall have to give it further study.......... ;D
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