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Nazi Deported

Postby Scorpiоn » Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:38 pm

DETROIT (Nov. 25) - A federal immigration judge has given the government permission to deport a former Nazi concentration camp guard who was a fugitive for several years until he was found hiding under a basement staircase.

Immigration Judge Larry Dean granted the government's request to deport Johann Leprich in a ruling issued Friday.

The 78-year-old retired machinist will be deported to his native Romania, or Germany or Hungary, said Greg Gagne, a spokesman for the Executive Office of Immigration Review.

Leprich's lawyer says he is appealing the decision, and a separate legal challenge continues to a 1987 court proceeding to revoke his U.S. citizenship.

Leprich acknowledged serving during World War II in the Death's Head Battalion, a branch of the Nazi SS that supplied guards to concentration camps. He worked as a guard at Nazi-ruled Austria's Mauthausen concentration camp, where 119,000 people were executed or worked to death from 1938 to 1945.

Leprich came to the United States in 1952 and became a citizen in 1958. But the Justice Department later discovered his Nazi past and moved in 1986 to revoke his citizenship.

Following a 1987 denaturalization hearing, Leprich moved to Canada, but evidence surfaced that he continued to live secretly in the United States.

On July 1, authorities acting on a tip found him hiding behind a panel under the basement stairs at his family's home about 25 miles northeast of Detroit.

He has been in custody ever since.

I guess it's the right thing to do, but you can't help but wonder if perhaps he's a changed man.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Paz » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:21 pm

 Yeah, that's kinda crazy to waste the effort, at 78 I'm sure he is no threat to anyone, during WWII he may have not had a choice what he did, and maybe he moved to the U.S. to get away from his past that perhaps he was ashamed of and start his life anew.
 It's pretty pathetic that after 50 years they are going to deport him, he would have been in his late teens or early 20's when he was a Nazi guard and was most likely forced to do that job or face the firing squad.

 I'm not defending the Nazi's by any means, but it is my opinion that this is just another stupid thing that our government wastes money on, this doesn't benefit anyone.
 Sending an old man back to a place he has probably tried his whole life to forget, that's sad.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby RichieB16 » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:55 pm

I agree with Paz, it is wrong to be sending him back.  I know that the Nazi's did horrible things to people at those camps-but it's not like those guards got to volunteer for their jobs.  He very likely had no choice.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Smoke2much » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:10 pm

All camp guards were SS.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby RichieB16 » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:12 pm

Was the SS volunteer-even at the end of the war?  I didn't think they were late in the war.  Guess I'm wrong.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Smoke2much » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:17 pm

There were two main branches to the SS.  The Waffen, or fighting SS and Eickes Deathshead formation, which was a voluteer outfit.

It is possible that late in the war men were drafted to fighting formations of the SS but unlikely that they would be conscripted to operate the death/concentration camps.

I have mixed feelings about the whole deal.  I can understand the belief that this was all along time ago but he was responsible for the maltreatment and death of anyone that the Nazi government considered undesirable.  If I commit murder today am I less guilty in 60 years time?

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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Hagar » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:29 pm

No question. Send him back to face the music as they should have done years ago. He will get a fair trial which is more than those millions of poor souls got. That's the trouble these days. There's more sympathy for the criminals (he is accused of being a criminal) than for the victims.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Polynomial » Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:00 am

its kinda a touchy issue,

at 78 he probably hasn't many years to live and besides, what he did 60 odd years ago is what he is probably trying to run away from.

on the other hand he should face up and take responsibility for what he has done.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby ATI_7500 » Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:39 am

i don't think that he will get a trial....
a) he's much too old,
b) he was in the SS 60 years ago,
c) no one knows if he ever shot at someone.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:03 pm

Well it's lucky for him that he's not being deported to Isreal. :P

I agree that he should be tried for what he as done. In nazi germany no one ever faced death by refusing to kill the jews. They all did it voluntarily.

I personally think that although he should stand trial he won't be severly prosecuted. He didn't order the deaths of any people he killed he would have just carried them out.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:07 pm

i don't think that he will get a trial....
a) he's much too old,
b) he was in the SS 60 years ago,
c) no one knows if he ever shot at someone.

a) You should never be too old to face justice for what you've done.
b) Maybe so. But if they found Hitler living in a cave somewhere then he would be put on trial for what he did 60 years ago.
c) He was a guard at a concentration camp where 119,000 people died. What are the chances that he didn't kill one? He volunteered for the SS so he would have been as antisematic as the rest of them.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby BFMF » Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:55 pm

He needs to take responsibility for what he did, even if it was 60 years ago. I say send him back
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby TheBladeRoden » Wed Nov 26, 2003 1:15 pm

If they didn't deoprt him it would probably stir up a big legal debacle over precisely how many years after a crime is committed is the accused no longer accountable.
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Postby Scorpiоn » Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:07 pm

We all know how the Germans love their Nazis. :P

C'mon, lets not kid ourselves, if he does get sent back to Germany, of course he'll be tried, and my money's on the guilty verdict.  No country that outlaws the Swastika is going to let a Nazi free.  Staying in America's his only hope.
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Re: Nazi Deported

Postby Hagar » Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:09 pm

Here's the way I see it. Wherever he's deported to he will get a fair trial. These places aren't barbaric & as far as I know none has the death penalty even for the most horrendous crime - unlike some states in the US.

If this man is guilty as charged he deserves everthing he gets. His age or how long ago his crimes were committed have nothing to do with it. Ask the families of those he allegedly murdered, if any survive. Many complete families were completely wiped from the planet by these thugs. He's already been free for almost 60 years. If found guilty, the worst he can expect will be life imprisonment, what's that? He's 78 now so something like 10 years in good conditions.

What possible motives does a country like America have for protecting him anyway?
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