Speaking of design rip-offs.....

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Speaking of design rip-offs.....

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:10 am

I suggest that the Antonov 124 and Lockheed C-5A are merely jet engined ripoffs of the Me323 Gigant!

Original ideas, right - even the US is now looking into wing warping for control surfaces... (only now it's called "adaptive wing geometry")
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Re: Speaking of design rip-offs.....

Postby Hagar » Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:23 am

There's not too many original ideas, simply "improvements" on established principles. I seem to remember the all-flying tailplane (horizontal stab) featured on the F-86 was first used in the very early days of powered flight. Maybe before WWI.

PS. The Wright Flyer was a canard. Strange how these things come & go, rather like the fashion industry. My wedding suit (not birthday suit) has been back in fashion several times since I was married in 1968. I'm certain that if I wait long enough it will be again. ;D
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Re: Speaking of design rip-offs.....

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:49 pm

I am informed birthday suits have to be quite old before going out of fashion.
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Re: Speaking of design rip-offs.....

Postby Mr. Bones » Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:04 pm

same as for the Tu-144 and Concorde (read the discussion we had a while back...i don't want to start it again   :-X)
and the Tu-160 and B-1
and...there are so many more...the latest one is the A300-600ST and the new 747 variant they gonna use to deliver 7E7 parts...and the list is long... ;)
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Re: Speaking of design rip-offs.....

Postby Crumbso » Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:13 pm

I read an article on b-1 and tu-160 and the tupolev outperforms it in almost all areas. That was a big surprise for me
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Re: Speaking of design rip-offs.....

Postby ATI_7500 » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:13 am

Focke Wulff Ta-183 -> MiG-15
Messerschmitt P.1xxx -> Bell X-5,F-14,etc...
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Re: Speaking of design rip-offs.....

Postby Hagar » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:24 am

Focke Wulff Ta-183 -> MiG-15
Messerschmitt P.1xxx -> Bell X-5,F-14,etc...

Given time I could quote plenty more examples. Many British, Soviet & US post-WWII prototypes were based on German research.

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