Sept. 11, 2003

[Professor Brensec]

Except in homage to the fallen.

How so? Do you mean draped over a grave or something similar?  ???

If so, I'd say that's definitely an acceptable exception. Of course what really gets me is when I see it being dragged thru the dirt because the idiot with it, can't fold it!  ;)

[Smoke2much]

No mate.  When they stand to attention and the Last Post is played during the rememberance ceremony the Standard bearers lower the flags untill the staff is horizontal.  You know what I mean?

Will

[Professor Brensec]

Oh I see. Sorry. I didn't realise that they actually 'touched' the ground.

I do have Military experience, but it was................somewhat, informal, to a degree. So the finer aspects of such a thing are a little lost on me. There were no flags when I would have seen that sort of thing.  ;D

[Scottler]

Yes, Brensec, I included the part about it touching the ground.  It's one of my biggest pet peeves, because I'm super duper patriotic, and it almost moves me to tears when I see it.  (Even during burials, the flag should never touch the ground.)

I was working in a restaurant several years ago, and the management decided it was time for a new flag.  (Finally.  The one they were flying was tattered almost beyond recognition.)

I walked in the back one day when I got to work, and they had taken the old flag, and literally thrown it in a garbage cart.  Not folded, not protected.  NOTHING.  It had garbage all over it.  

I went into a blind rage, calling everyone every name in the book.  I hadn't been that upset in a long time.  Most people perceived it (understandably) as some sort of weirdness, but to me it was the most disrespectful thing I've ever seen.  

Anyway, back to the discussion at hand.

I agree, that as citizens, we should be constantly monitoring the actions made by our elected government, but we've also got to put some trust in them, because they'll never be able to tell us everything that led to the decisions they made.

Unfortunately, we can't discuss politics here, so I can't speak my true feelings.  All I can really say is that there are some people, primarily of a particular political party, who are so hell bent on derailing President Bush that they have defamed him multiple times simply because they don't feel he won the 2000 election.  Make no mistake.  These people will never agree with a decision he  makes, regardless of how beneficial it is to the rest of us.  

If you or I were to make the allegations that are being made about the President, only we made them about a corporation, we'd be in jail for slander and/or libel.