not again(TSA Rant)

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Re: not again(TSA Rant)

Postby Fly2e » Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:35 am

Hey Scott,
The reason that Politics got cast out was because it was getting really heavy at the time of the Iraq war.
With so many different beleifs and countries involved, people wanted their voices heard and unfortunatley, people were saying things from different countries, and people from the same countries were taking sides and it started to get real ugly. I mean, even the "mature adults" were going at it.
It is just too sensitive, politics" that is. I think it really got out of control  because we were about to go to war with Iraq, and as you know from just watching the news and reading the papers, even this country was divided!!
Now imagine people ranging from 12 years old to 80 years old, reading things from behind their pc and responding with anger!!
You saw how quickly the Kimber-Ken thing erupted.

I tried to find the threads but I think the "BAD" one was deleted.

Anyway, here are the links to 2 threads that had to do with the whole thing!

Me, I stay out of the political end, as you know from a copy of my email and a lashing from Pete!! LOL

Remember, these threads are meant to "inform" new people as to why Politics is out, it is not to "stirr" up anything!!

Here they are.

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/ ... 1048649316


http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb/ ... 1049009111


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Re: not again(TSA Rant)

Postby Scottler » Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:53 am

Thanks Dave, but I'm not even going to look at them....I'm still riding the glory of this thread not turning ugly, and I don't want to be reminded of what it COULD have been...lol

Kudos again to everyone for keeping their cool during a hot topic.... ;)
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Re: not again(TSA Rant)

Postby Craig. » Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:24 pm

i have two more interesting rules the TSA introduced. the No standing rule into washingtons Ronald Regan INTL, and if you havent heard of it, it goes as such, no passenger is allowed to stand once the aircraft has entered the 30 minutes before landing phase of flight. should this happen the plane with be diverted to Dulles or the other one:) and the passenger stands a chance of being arrested. So should anyone need to goto the toilet badly forget it, which ok for adults isnt really a problem, but for a little kid this could become both a parents and passengers worst nightmare behind the screaming baby. and it makes little to no sense what so ever.
the other being, you need a security code to enter washington airspace, again should you forget it, you will be diverted, its only known by the pilots i believe. this has caused a few flights to be diverted because of it.
anyone wanna have a go at those two for explaining it???
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Re: not again(TSA Rant)

Postby Ivan » Thu Aug 14, 2003 3:31 pm

no stand rule... this sounds (and is) completely stupid.

They better close that airfield instead of making such stupid legislation to keep it working... spares a LOT of paperwork and passenger harrasment.

The lobbyists can take the public transport, so they can get some opinions from the street too instead of being ferried with the VIP bus to just over the bridge whitout seeing anything of the public
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Re: not again(TSA Rant)

Postby Scottler » Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:05 pm

The no standing rule was implemented for security reasons to protect the area in and around Washington, D.C.

As I'm sure you know, many commercial flights have Air Marshals aboard.  No one knows who these people are, they don't wear ID that says "Hey, I'm an air marshal" or anything like that.

The reason for the no standing rule is simple.  If anyone stands, the flight crew, and possibly the air marshals (if they're on board), will be able to say "Okay, we've got a situation here", and they'll get a jump start on any potential threat.

It's a decent rule.  You've got the entire flight to pee...no need to do it during your descent.  9 times out of 10 the fasten seatbelt sign is on anyway by then, and you're supposed to be in your seat anyway.
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