ILS Landing

[beefhole]

Lol, in most of my landings my aeroplane usually sinks into the runway on "impact"

Well, it has to get on the ground one way or another

[Saratoga]

Well concordski, that is a good way to land. Gotta admit, you can put that thing on one heck of a short strip that way.

[cobzz]

Lol, in most of my landings my aeroplane usually sinks into the runway on "impact"

ur probly hitting the runway way to hard.


In some planes the auto pilot can land the plane with plain old Approach hold because of the ground effect.

[Saratoga]

In some planes the auto pilot can land the plane with plain old Approach hold because of the ground effect.

Ground effect? What ground effect. I don't feel that in the sim. With the small planes, the C172/182 are great at it, the autopilot will make a perfect ILS approach at 60 knots and will even flare (due to the glidescope jumping up) and touch down very very smoothly. Anywhere from 120-160 knots will break the 737's mains off during landing, so that little trick doesn't quite work for it.

[jrpilot]

Make sure the Flight Director (FD) is on also

[concordski]

Make sure the Flight Director (FD) is on also

Yeah, I think thats on, two things though, FS isn't very good at lining up up for a landing, try an approach to Kastrup airport in Copenhagen, Denmark from London direction! And I always extend the flaps fully, and what are slats?!?

[Nexus]

Slats are leading edge flaps

[cobzz]

in heavys i can feal ground affect heaps, well at least in some of my planes. Also on the discorvery channel.
A 747 pilot said because of the huge body of the plane it has huge ground affect, Making it so you dont have to flare as much.
Also because of the C17s large landing gear I heard that it dosnt need to flare because of, the heavy duty landing gear, and ground affect

[cobzz]

if i am wrong,
helos are aircraft, so ground affect is major for them

[beefhole]

Trust me, 172s need to flare.  I learned that quick enough.

In FS, slats are automatically deployed with the first degree of flaps set in.

[Nexus]

In FS, slats are automatically deployed with the first degree of flaps set in.

Same procedure in real world aswell. Take the

[jrpilot]

Also flaps 30 is the most common used flaps on the 737 for the approach, and don't flare to much, especially on short runways because for some damb reason a 737 can hover for 300 miles at 100 kts, joking of course , it just seems sometimes when I land that I can hover  for a good 200 feet while flaring (lifting the nose up , not sure if you knew about that) and causing me to go some what off the centerline...

[beefhole]

I can't remember the last time I floated a landing... (that's a bad thing)

[jrpilot]

I can't remember the last time I floated a landing... (that's a bad thing)

I should have said it, but I was referring the the Feelthere ERJ, and CRJ I own...very realistic but I will fly the approach and it sometimes will be a little (10 kts) bit above the landing speed +5, anyways if you own these aircraft you would understand what I am talking about and how the hover

[beefhole]

I meant that it's a bad thing that I haven't floated it in a while... not that it's a bad thing to float (this means I'm always hitting the ground with quite a bit of force).

Hope that clears it up. (my head hurts)