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ILS landings

Postby michaelb15 » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:18 pm

I don't get it.....  :(  I have took the lessons like a dozen times in ACOF and I still ant really figure it out
I am somwhere I don't know where I am!!!
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Re: ILS landings

Postby OTTOL » Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:51 pm

Your'e gonna have to be a little more specific! ???
.....so I loaded up the plane and moved to Middle-EEEE..........OIL..that is......
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Re: ILS landings

Postby Ivan » Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:13 pm

forget about it anyway, doing it 5 times gives you the touch, and that instructor is too impatient anyway
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Re: ILS landings

Postby Smoke2much » Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:19 pm

You have succeded in an ILS landing when the wheels on the aeroplane thingy contact the runway thingy and you stop before reaching the end.

The easy was to do it is to set your altitude to 2000ft and use the GPS system to navigate into the green triangle that represents the ILS system.  Have the NAV1 radio switched to the frequency of the ILS of the runway that you are landing on and as you approach the green traingle watch what the needles do.  Practice on the cessna it is easier.

You will notice that the two needles divert away from their centre lines.  The horizontal needle is the glideslope and tells you what altitude you should be at.  The closer you get to the runway the lower you should be.  The verticle needle is the centre line of the runway.  The trick is to fly towards the needles.

Most glideslopes are set up so that you are descending at 3 degrees which works out at approx 500 feet per minute at 90 knots.  Trim the aircraft for 90kts in straight and level flight, as you see the ILS needle start to deflect downwards try to get the VSI to 500FPM whilst maintaining 90kts (flaps can help).  At the same time watch the vertical needle and fly towards it when it deviates from center, keep your inputs small and smooth.

Practice makes perfect, use a light aircraft and fly circuits of an ILS equiped airfield with the ATC off and AI traffic at 0% in broad daylight with cleared weather.  Use the visual clues to guide your interpretation of the ILS needles.  When you can keep the aircraft on the ILS in the above conditions try reducing the visability a little at a time, when you can do it in zero visability in realistic weather conditions at night with a four year old on your lap pushing random buttons for you and shouting "crash it daddy" you will be a happy man.

Good luck mate.

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Re: ILS landings

Postby PH_AJH » Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:12 am

at night with a four year old on your lap

Putting the four year old in his bed (as my wife tells me to) makes it a lot easier indeed. That is until you start doing online ILS approaches with Vatsim and the 6 months old starts crying when you're on final...That never happens in a real cockpit (or at least there's soundproof door between the child and the pilot) and I can tell you: it's nerve-wrecking.
I had my KLM Cityhopper flight from Amsterdam to Hamburg delayed for 15 minutes the other day because the little bugger started crying at startup. Luckily the Vatsim controller was very understanding ;D

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Re: ILS landings

Postby KnightStryker » Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:03 pm

ROTFLMAO!
with a four year old on your lap pushing random buttons for you and shouting "crash it daddy"


That is priceless. I am very glad that I am not the only person who has to deal with this. My almost four year old does the same thing, she even says "crash it daddy". Some of you might think its funny, but until you have actually had to deal with this you will have no idea.

Thanks Will, I needed that.

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Re: ILS landings

Postby Smoke2much » Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:34 pm

I'm not alone!!!!!!!

We need a simviation Daddies club.  Pippin can moderate as the poor sod has twins...... ::)

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Re: ILS landings

Postby Wing Nut » Sat Nov 08, 2003 12:03 pm

I'll do it as long as I can post pictures of them every day!
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Re: ILS landings

Postby KnightStryker » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:23 am

Post away Pippin!
Just make sure that there is a crashed plane in the background ;D.
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Re: ILS landings

Postby Wing Nut » Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:36 pm

Let me get this straight, you are giving me a reason to go look at airplanes AND play with the babies?  Whoa...
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Re: ILS landings

Postby zeberdee » Sat Nov 15, 2003 4:35 pm

Hi I just thought it was only my psyco 3 1/2 year old with a death wish!!! When I am flying (2002) she asks the same, are you going to crash dad? Thankfully she hasn't done it when we went up in a real Piper pa28, thank goodness she didn't see how close the 737 was! Dare I end with "happy landings"    Chris
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Re: ILS landings

Postby KnightStryker » Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:51 pm

Let me get this straight, you are giving me a reason to go look at airplanes AND play with the babies?  Whoa...


Yep, its called multitasking I believe! Or killing two birds with one stone. I am now an expert at this. Twice the fun in half the time, and it tends to wear out the little one so she gets a nap sooner leaving more alone time for me and my planes. It is a beautiful thing, although sometimes im the one worn out and in need of the nap (come to think of it im almost always the one who needs the nap, it sucks to feel this old at 26.).

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Re: ILS landings

Postby MickeyMouse » Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:48 am

LOL... yea, well wait until they are 10 and are networked in with another PC and instead of saying "crash it Daddy", they just slam into you in mid-air,  or after a long 4 hour flight you are fianlly taxing to your gateway when your 17yo daughter decides it's funny to slam her 737 into the side of yours.

All you can do is smile and laugh with them (ugg!)  I guess I need to start getting up earlier to get my flights in.  When they get up and see me flying, they want to join in... "you got a server running Dad!"  You just hate to say no... one day they won't be there to slam into you.
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Re: ILS landings

Postby Wing Nut » Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:28 am

By the time my daughter is 17 the 737 will probably be retired and long gone...  :)
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