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ILS landing

Postby michaelb15 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:43 pm

So I got that MD 83, and I took it on a quick flight to see how it flies.. I flew from Vancouver to Seattle/tacoma, and landed on rwy 16L

Well the systems are nothing like I am used to (that FMC is quite something!)

It all worked OK (at least for my first time ever attempting such a system  ;D ;D) until the landing.. I didn't crash or anything, and it was actually a pretty nice landing.. But it was on the side of the runway.. I wasn't able to take a pic, because it was happening all to quick, and I was online so there is no instant replay  :-/
but I did a basic ILS approach, the FMC automatically put on approach hold once I was in range, it looked like it was lining up good, it was straight on, just it was off to the right of the runway...

the only autopilot I had on during landing was just Approach hold.. I shut off everything else when I was still a couple miles out. I don't know if that is what I am suppose to do? Is there a fully automatic landing that I am suppose to do?

I am somewhat new to the idea of ILS. Although I have done them before, they have always been skeptical.

If someone could help my dellema I would be thankful!

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Re: ILS landing

Postby BlackAce » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:25 am

Is this the freeware md80? You need to put the course heading and NAV frequence in, then you should have the autopilot on?
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Re: ILS landing

Postby Fozzer » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:43 am

I believe that the ILS transmitter buildings are generally situated at the side of runways...radiating the signal from the side?
...(you would not want to collide with them in the centre of the runway!)... :o....

For that reason, I suspect that pilots always switch the Autopilot fully off...and finally land using manual control adjustments only.

I always switch the Autopilot completely off, and re-trim, on final approach..

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Re: ILS landing

Postby reachva » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:50 am

Fozzer is correct, the ILS system is usually either well before the runway or adjacent to it. many pilots disconnect and manually land the plane below 1000ft. Aircraft with Autoland systems have computers that can calculate and compensate for the offset beacons.
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Re: ILS landing

Postby michaelb15 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:41 pm

I am using the FSND MD 83 located here:

what is really funny is I tried the same landing again, (I did a touch and go the first time) and I ended up on the other side of the runway
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Re: ILS landing

Postby Fozzer » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:05 pm


I will try turning off the autopilot once I am within visual range, but I thought the whole purpose of ILS is "Instrument Landing System"... meaning it automates landing (almost?)


The autopilot should only be treated as a tool, guiding you in the general direction of the active runway, at the correct glide-slope heights....step by step.
Make sure you are intercepting the glide-slope at the correct height above ground, depending upon your distance from the runway.
It is not designed to fully land you automatically...safely!

...and make sure that you are landing on the correct end of the active runway, following the advice from ATIS.
(Note the use of the "BC" (back-course) button on your ILS Radio).

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Re: ILS landing

Postby Brett_Henderson » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:06 am

I thought the whole purpose of ILS is "Instrument Landing System"... meaning it automates landing (almost?)


An ILS simply allows you to land by instrument (when you cannot see the runway)..
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Re: ILS landing

Postby Ang2dogs » Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:03 pm

I thought the whole purpose of ILS is "Instrument Landing System"... meaning it automates landing (almost?)


An ILS simply allows you to land by instrument (when you cannot see the runway)..
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