FSX Licence tests

[djbozz]

Hi, I remember in FS2000 Pro, there were a number of missions to do with passing your test & even print a certificate when passed, Are there any like this for FSX? doesnt seem to be built in. [smiley=grin.gif]

[EVVFCX]

Hi DJbozz,

I don't know about fs2000 but the lessons/tests are similar to the Fs2002 and fs2004 ones.


regards

Steve

[djbozz]

Yeh,they are similar, are there any tests like this for FSX?, Im doing a real flying lesson in the spring and all practise would be good.

[EVVFCX]

maybe i should have worded that differently in the first place

The lessons/tests in FSX are similar to the fs2002 and fs2004 -  I missed out on fs2000 after fs98.

[pilotrylan79]

The tests on FSX are very similar. You can complete your student pilots licence, private, instrument, multi-engine, commercial, and ATP pilot check-rides and receive printer friendly certificates for each of them. There's also many informative lessons to pass between each check-ride.
As for the down side, well the instrument check-ride is bugged and simply won't let you pass. A few people on this site have made their own fix's to this issue, however you'd have to find them and get them to email you a copy of their script.

As far as doing these to prepare for real life lessons, I highly discourage it- especially if you're using a joystick. As a "real world" pilot I can tell you right now that actual flight lessons are much different than the sim lessons. Although the sim has a lot to offer, it really won't help a pilot without real world experience because you guys simply have no way of knowing whether or not what you're doing is correct. Many sim pilots (especially those who use sim joysticks and no rudders) come into real world aviation with a load of bad habits they developed in the sim. Believe it or not those habits actually do carry over to real life and can take a lot of time and money to fix. In fact, for this purpose many CFIs tell their students not to use the sim until they're finished with their private pilots check-ride. After that point the pilot is fully aware of the differences between real world piloting and sim piloting, and is able to stop himself from developing those bad habits. After that the sim can finally be used as a good training aid, but until then it will likely only do more bad than good.

[EVVFCX]

How people fly after being on flights sims is going to vary with each individual.
I had used flight sims for 12 years or so before I flew a cessna 172, but before that i was aerobatic on 4 types of glider.

Some will struggle, I tell a colleague at work thats its different in real life, partially because of the physical feedback you get, it's more so in a fully aerobatic aircraft.

From what I remember about the IFR test is that the timer in the script has not been set for one of the outbound legs from the vor.

[Mr._Ryan]

As far as doing these to prepare for real life lessons, I highly discourage it- especially if you're using a joystick. As a "real world" pilot I can tell you right now that actual flight lessons are much different than the sim lessons. Although the sim has a lot to offer, it really won't help a pilot without real world experience because you guys simply have no way of knowing whether or not what you're doing is correct. Many sim pilots (especially those who use sim joysticks and no rudders) come into real world aviation with a load of bad habits they developed in the sim. Believe it or not those habits actually do carry over to real life and can take a lot of time and money to fix. In fact, for this purpose many CFIs tell their students not to use the sim until they're finished with their private pilots check-ride. After that point the pilot is fully aware of the differences between real world piloting and sim piloting, and is able to stop himself from developing those bad habits. After that the sim can finally be used as a good training aid, but until then it will likely only do more bad than good.

I guess I would have to ask you to be more specific as to what bad habits one might get into as a sim pilot, although I do agree, there are simply some things you learn in real world pilot training that you wouldn't necessarily learn from being a sim pilot (getting the aircraft to level flight before trimming, for example). But as a student pilot who soloed after 6 (yes, 6) hours working with a CFII who is in Rod Machado's advertisements in AOPA and Flight Training magazines (and who has over 6,000 hours of dual instruction time), I have to say, I found my sim experience to be vital. For example, after hundreds and hundreds of landings in the simulator, they were easy as pie in real life. Learning to manage your airspeed and rate of decent on final transfers directly from the sim to the Cherokee. Learning how to fly a pattern correctly may be a slightly different story, but I wouldn't discount sim experience out of hand. Simply learning the skill of scanning your instrument panel (and yes, that is a skill) is in my mind invaluable. Once you get in a real airplane, you aren't wondering what all the instruments are and what they're telling you.

My two cents...

[Ang2dogs]

This website helps you work around the glitches with the timing problem when trying to pass a checkride,

http://www.fsxrewards.com/rewards/certificates.html

It still pretty challenging. Earning the solo certificate was the only one that took me 1 time to pass, the rest took a while to achive, even knowing what to expect after viewing the above site. I'm now working on the last one, the ATP. IT's not set up for anyone to just jump in and win a certificate. you got to do the lessons, You do have to earn them. Great sense of accomplishment when you pass the checkride. Have fun with it and good luck!

[DaveSims]

As far as doing these to prepare for real life lessons, I highly discourage it- especially if you're using a joystick. As a "real world" pilot I can tell you right now that actual flight lessons are much different than the sim lessons. Although the sim has a lot to offer, it really won't help a pilot without real world experience because you guys simply have no way of knowing whether or not what you're doing is correct. Many sim pilots (especially those who use sim joysticks and no rudders) come into real world aviation with a load of bad habits they developed in the sim. Believe it or not those habits actually do carry over to real life and can take a lot of time and money to fix. In fact, for this purpose many CFIs tell their students not to use the sim until they're finished with their private pilots check-ride. After that point the pilot is fully aware of the differences between real world piloting and sim piloting, and is able to stop himself from developing those bad habits. After that the sim can finally be used as a good training aid, but until then it will likely only do more bad than good.

I guess I would have to ask you to be more specific as to what bad habits one might get into as a sim pilot, although I do agree, there are simply some things you learn in real world pilot training that you wouldn't necessarily learn from being a sim pilot (getting the aircraft to level flight before trimming, for example). But as a student pilot who soloed after 6 (yes, 6) hours working with a CFII who is in Rod Machado's advertisements in AOPA and Flight Training magazines (and who has over 6,000 hours of dual instruction time), I have to say, I found my sim experience to be vital. For example, after hundreds and hundreds of landings in the simulator, they were easy as pie in real life. Learning to manage your airspeed and rate of decent on final transfers directly from the sim to the Cherokee. Learning how to fly a pattern correctly may be a slightly different story, but I wouldn't discount sim experience out of hand. Simply learning the skill of scanning your instrument panel (and yes, that is a skill) is in my mind invaluable. Once you get in a real airplane, you aren't wondering what all the instruments are and what they're telling you.

My two cents...

I can tell you one bad habit flight simmers often carry over to real world training, over use of the instrument panel.  You become over dependent on what the instruments are telling you, and have trouble flying without them.  As a student pilot, you should be learning to fly looking out of the window and by feel, not instruments.  By instructor finally resorted to covering the panel.

[Mr._Ryan]

As far as doing these to prepare for real life lessons, I highly discourage it- especially if you're using a joystick. As a "real world" pilot I can tell you right now that actual flight lessons are much different than the sim lessons. Although the sim has a lot to offer, it really won't help a pilot without real world experience because you guys simply have no way of knowing whether or not what you're doing is correct. Many sim pilots (especially those who use sim joysticks and no rudders) come into real world aviation with a load of bad habits they developed in the sim. Believe it or not those habits actually do carry over to real life and can take a lot of time and money to fix. In fact, for this purpose many CFIs tell their students not to use the sim until they're finished with their private pilots check-ride. After that point the pilot is fully aware of the differences between real world piloting and sim piloting, and is able to stop himself from developing those bad habits. After that the sim can finally be used as a good training aid, but until then it will likely only do more bad than good.

I guess I would have to ask you to be more specific as to what bad habits one might get into as a sim pilot, although I do agree, there are simply some things you learn in real world pilot training that you wouldn't necessarily learn from being a sim pilot (getting the aircraft to level flight before trimming, for example). But as a student pilot who soloed after 6 (yes, 6) hours working with a CFII who is in Rod Machado's advertisements in AOPA and Flight Training magazines (and who has over 6,000 hours of dual instruction time), I have to say, I found my sim experience to be vital. For example, after hundreds and hundreds of landings in the simulator, they were easy as pie in real life. Learning to manage your airspeed and rate of decent on final transfers directly from the sim to the Cherokee. Learning how to fly a pattern correctly may be a slightly different story, but I wouldn't discount sim experience out of hand. Simply learning the skill of scanning your instrument panel (and yes, that is a skill) is in my mind invaluable. Once you get in a real airplane, you aren't wondering what all the instruments are and what they're telling you.

My two cents...

I can tell you one bad habit flight simmers often carry over to real world training, over use of the instrument panel.