What's the average hieght of Trees?

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What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby Mistro » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:12 pm

I always get nervous on final approach especially at airstrips because of the trees. My glideslope be looking good but then...those trees!
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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby BAW0343 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:28 pm

All I know is that in every real world mention of objects in line with the runway they use a standard height of 50ft for your clearance.

So I'm thinking because that's the standard in the real world, FSX has probably made every tree about 50ft tall.

Just a guess tho.
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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby Keep It Simple » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:02 pm

There is a third party FSX file that will remove trees at a set distance from the end of runways.

However, I don't remenber what it's called or where I got it.
I'm not on my FSX sys right now.
Perhaps someone else can give you more info.
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Re: What's the average height of Trees?

Postby Fozzer » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:11 pm

Trees are not the only things to worry about... :o..!

Keep a wary eye out for overhead Electricity Pylons and Telephone Poles...and the wires in between are invisible!... :(...!

A natural hazard for real Pilots!

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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby snippyfsxer » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:13 am

Trees are not the only things to worry about... :o..!

Keep a wary eye out for overhead Electricity Pylons and Telephone Poles...and the wires in between are invisible!... :(...!

A natural hazard for real Pilots!

Paul...G-BPLF..FS 2004...FS Nav...The Wichita Line-man is on the line!... 8-)....!


Wow, an Englishman making a pop culture reference to a late 1960s American country and western song.
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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby vgbaron » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:35 pm

Naw, I'm already hearing " I am a lineman for the county....."

Darn - used to LOVE that song - saw him perform it live many moons ago - don't remember if it was the Hollywood Bowl or the Greek Theater - think the Bowl.

AArgh!
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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby olderndirt » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:48 pm

All I know is that in every real world mention of objects in line with the runway they use a standard height of 50ft for your clearance.

So I'm thinking because that's the standard in the real world, FSX has probably made every tree about 50ft tall.

Just a guess tho.
At AVSIM there's a file 'agexcl_3x.zip' which claims to remove trees from an area 3 times the runway width.
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Re: What's the average height of Trees?

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:53 pm

All I know is that in every real world mention of objects in line with the runway they use a standard height of 50ft for your clearance.

So I'm thinking because that's the standard in the real world, FSX has probably made every tree about 50ft tall.

Just a guess tho.
At AVSIM there's a file 'agexcl_3x.zip' which claims to remove trees from an area 3 times the runway width.
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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby Tim_A » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:49 am

It's the natural action of the prop, as the pilot crosses the fence at 50ft, that keeps the trees trim. This is why prop driven aircraft are so important. When an airport goes jet-only, they have to chop all the surrounding trees down because they no longer get naturally pruned...

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Re: What's the average height of Trees?

Postby Fozzer » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:38 am

It's the natural action of the prop, as the pilot crosses the fence at 50ft, that keeps the trees trim. This is why prop driven aircraft are so important. When an airport goes jet-only, they have to chop all the surrounding trees down because they no longer get naturally pruned...

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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby garryrussell » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:40 am

It's not the average height you want really :-?...it's the max height you need to know

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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby j76ny » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:34 am

Are you counting the ones floating in mid-air along with houses at about 3-4k feet?

For a fun filled tree filled approach, try my hometown airport - D38.
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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby pirabee » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:49 am

Speaking for myself, I go in high, pretend Im a Nam pilot ferrying in troops with the field being mortar bombed, then I slam the nose down at the last minute and giggle at the howl coming from the cabin behind, pull up the nose at the last minute and chop the engines. Heehaw!!! Half my wheels get laminated on the runway surface and smoke eddies around the wings as I taxi cheerfully to parking whistling: "goodness gracious great balls of fire". Chuckle!
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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby Tim_A » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:49 am

Ah, the classic dive bomb approach!  ;D I love watching those at air shows. Been a few that went wrong though.
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Re: What's the average hieght of Trees?

Postby Mistro » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:42 pm

To all you expert pilots out there......how do you deal with those airfields out in the sticks that is completely surrounded by trees? I once landed in an airfield out in Washington and almost crashed into the bushes. Then I couldn't get out of there. I did full power before releasing the brakes and the mighty Herculese pine tree tip stopped me like an NBA center. Most times I'm shocked when I get out of some of these small strips. Anyone ever been to that little scuff of an airfield/Island out in the Midway Islands (west of Hawaii)? To my surprise, it had trees at both ends of the runway.

@GarryRussel: You're right. The real question is the max hieght of FSX trees. Anyone?
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