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Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby Thai09 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:09 am

No, it's not me that get 50+ FPS, at least not yet, but this guy - Mathijs Kok from Aerosoft does!

There's an interesting discussion over at Aerosoft how he manages to do that, and I must say it's a bresh of fresh air:

http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=30796

With an old ATI Radeon 4650 card.. :o
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby a1 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:23 am

I don't know why anyone would want anything over 30FPS. The human eye is best at 30FPS anyways and it is not how many frames you get it is how smooth the overall sim is like.
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby Thai09 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:47 am

It's complicated, but what about a smooth game with 50 + FPS?!

http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_c ... ns_see.htm
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby dharris » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:27 am

I read this post with interest.  I read his pdf file explaining what he does and looking at the pictures he posted in the pdf file, the clouds and scenery look more like cartoons than what I expect and get with Nick Needham guides.  I agree with him as far as the defragging goes, but high frame rates just are not the important issue.  Smooth flight is more enjoyable.  When you first install fsx as a clean install you get marvelously high frame rates but it looks silly, cartoonish.  It is not until you get in to changing the settings that fsx excells.  I admit that when I first started following Nicks suggestions I did not always do "all" of the things he said and got missed results.  But after getting some good advice on hardware and settings, went back and followed his settings to the letter.  What difference!  Over the years I have run in to a lot of "experts" but only a very few with the dedication and experience that Nick has.  His background is exemplary.  The fact this this man uses his system for work results says to me he has it optimised for his work scheduled not just for the pleasure of flying in the sim.  My two cents
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby Thai09 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:00 am

Apparently he doesn't mind a few "jaggies" and some setbacks in IQ, he's more interested in flying. At least that's how I interpret his approach.

But it's ironic that he does this as an Aerosoft spokesman ( - or is it his company?) - they make the most hard hitting add ons when we consider FPS!

Try Venice, Italy - an your CPU is in for a ride I guarantee...

I think he has an "audience" with the people who actually do not understand tweaks and settings like NickN advocates, there's a lot of them around,
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby flaminghotsauce » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:36 pm

K.I.S.S. Keep it simple, stupid. I don't have much in the way of add-ons, just a few airplanes. I have a 64 bit AMD quad-core, 6 gigs of ram, some big HD, an NVidea 9400gt 512mg, and I regularly see well in excess of 30fps. When in the great midwest, I can see 60. I don't fly heavy aircraft, though. YMMV. I keep mostly default high or ultrahigh settings on every tab and sometimes turn on DX10, bloom, shadows, etc. The frames are cloud dependant, mostly. I normally run the resolution in 16 bit versus 32 bit which helps.

Most folks that complain are running environments, land mesh enhancements, HD airliners, just gobs of stuff, then turn the settings all the way up, and get 7 fps. then hate it. Then go back to FS9.

I take the easy way to enjoying FSX.
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby dharris » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:46 pm

Well I have environments, land mesh enhancements hd aircraft and hd clouds and run most settings full right except traffic, half way for those, 32 bit system so no dx10 but she flys smooth as glass.
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby GatwickSpotting » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:41 am

I have got 220FPS in the past with FSX + REX all maxed with a detailed addon (just for kicks). Most often with DX10 on, I can get stable 80FPS+ in busy places.

Also, I can tell the different between 60fps and 80fps. I did an experiment with my friend, where only he could see the FPS counter, and I had to say how many FPS I thought it was.

Anyway, I have found 51FPS to be the PERFECT FPS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F44N5bJmBCg (hit 200FPS at one point)
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby Thai09 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:27 am

Looks impressive!

But you didn't max. everything...

Look at 0.56 - no traffic in air, land & sea!
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby Fozzer » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:22 am

220 FPS.... :o... :o... :o...!

...probably why we don't see too many FSX Multiplayer Users in the Sim, where the regulation FPS speed limit is a maximum of 20 FPS so as not to overload the Bandwidth during the session!... ;)...!

...that would deflate a few obsessive egos!... ;)... ;)... ;D...!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004 (and FSX)...FS Navigator...and a nice smooth Locked 20 FPS Solo and Multiplayer!... :-*...!
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby ShaneG_old » Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:06 am

Why Paul & I cannot acheive 50+ FPS in FSX :


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Isn't the FSX FPS counter, really inaccurate ?  I know it was way  off in FS2002 & FS9. One of the things that made chasing the FPS snipe so maddening.
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby Fozzer » Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:51 am

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Why Paul & I cannot achieve 50+ FPS in FSX :


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Isn't the FSX FPS counter, really inaccurate ?
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby Thai09 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:06 pm

I think the "50+ FPS" statement is a clever marketing gimmick performed by Mathijs Kok!

Probably directed at the young players - the boys who are totally obsessed with how many FPS you can get in games like "Crysis", and whatever else they like to throw Mom & Dad's money after!

WE, the grown ups, the babyboomers, the cynics, the tired and wornout, we don't really care about FPS, we care about smoothness in our sim and smoothness in our lives outside the sim!

I started this thread to get a discussion going about flying in a sim, or be obsessed with visuals...

There will be aviators, and there will be "landscape artists"!

Who are you??
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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby lunitic_8 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:47 pm

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Re: Why I get 50+ FPS in FSX, and you might not!

Postby Fozzer » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:14 pm

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