FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Daube » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:29 am

Not much difference, sorry to say!

Tried KSEA - frames were from 17 to 25, but too much stutter...

Will have to play around with the settings some more, and a defrag I just found out now!

Had too many problems with Tongass Fjords add on, installed and removed 4-5 times, so I def. need a defrag or 2, or 3 - 4 maybe.. ;)


You'll have to test more values.
I started with the TBM at 60, then 70 on my computer.
Before I tested the 0 bufferpools, it was set to 40 millions for my 8800 GTX.
Also, I had to sacrifice several AI parameters to gain performance over major airfields:
- no ground traffic
- no airpot vehicules
- no GA traffic
- liner traffic replaced by WOAI (default is too heavy)

Also, I had to follow Nick's advises to setup my NVidia profile correctly.
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:04 am

I just helped a pilot friend set up FSX on his machine.. i7-940/GTX275.. He refused to let me over-clock (he's leary about that stuff)..

Side-by-side against my  Q9550/8800GTS(G92)  at 3.6ghz.. mine did much better. He went out and got an i7-975.. ($1,100 CPU at the local shop), and my Q9550  STILL  out-performs it.. even with the ancient 8800GTS.

What I've learned.. is that (as we all know by now).. first and foremost, you must have a CPU running at well over 3Ghz.. and it must have massive cache. That narrows it down to i7s and the newer 45nm Qs. Over-clocking is not an option. Even that $1,100 975 needs to be clocked.

The video card obviously has to be top-notch.. but it's not as important as CPU speed.. moreso than before. The newest/fastest video-card, is a waste on top of a sub 3.5ghz CPU. I tried his 275 in my computer.. and it didn't run any better than my old 8800GTS.
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Flight Ace » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:14 am

[quote]I just helped a pilot friend set up FSX on his machine.. i7-940/GTX275.. He refused to let me over-clock (he's leary about that stuff)..

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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:32 am

Yeah.. the video RAM is important to get those huge textures rendered..  but it's still secondary to CPU speed.
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Flight Ace » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:58 am

[quote]Yeah.. the video RAM is important to get those huge textures rendered..
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Daube » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:49 am

[quote]Yeah.. the video RAM is important to get those huge textures rendered..
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Lordluud2 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:40 am

Some handy replies over here, though I notice many are still having trouble running FSX. So.. I installed FS9 again  :D

And what do you think.. when maxed, my rig has trouble running it XD

There is something terribly wrong with it... It has terrible performace with every game. There is something wrong with my rig. And btw.. I have over 50 backgrounds programs (?) running, and I have no clues what all of them are.
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Flight Ace » Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:46 pm

Have you over-clocked? If not, boost it up to 3.7 to 4GHz and then see how it runs.
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Lordluud2 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:52 am

I wish I could overclock, but I have no extra cooling and I have no idea how to overclock. And I am having already so many problems with my rig that overclocking it will probably make things only worse.

I tried lots of things to improve the performance of my rig, but my knowledge of computers just isn't enough.

It would be nice if someone could help me optimize my rig. I'll draw a special drawing for the one who volunteers
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby FLFlyGuy » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:15 am

Lordluud2 you indicate you are noob at computers and since none of your games, nor even FS9 will work, I'm wondering if you have the latest BIOS, drivers, etc., for your system?  If not you might want to reconsider re-installing windows with everything updated.  I did a lot of research before buying my parts, and if IIRC the Pt6 board had issues with the bios that shipped with it, and/or the ASUS driver-install disk.  Many people did not get the performance they expected until updating everything -- manually.

It's very easy to update the BIOS with a flash drive, and you can download all the latest drivers for your board from the asus site.  Alternatively you could just update the bios without reinstalling windows and see if that improves your performance.  Otherwise I would start from scratch.

I have built many, many rigs in the interminable quest for the ultimate FSX rig, and can tell you if you do not install the latest bios and drivers in a particular order flight simulator performance can suffer.

Also, placing everything on one large 1.5 drive is just not the ideal setup.  Once you start loading that disc with data and everything else that gets placed on it by virtue of using the computer your performance is probably going to suffer even worse.  Even with very little on it, it is still, physically, a big disc.  Better is OS/FSX/programs on one drive, and data on the other (use the 1.5T).  Ideal is FSX on its very own drive.  Do you have an extra disc somewhere?  Can you get an extra (smaller) drive(s)?

My system is:

Asus p6t deluxe v2
i-7 920 @ 3600
2 300 Gb Velociraptors (1 for OS/programs and one for FSX)
1 500 GB WD "green drive"
BFG 285 GTX OC
12 GB Corsair 1600

FSX is still not 100% smooth at the moment, but I have not done any fsx.cfg tweaks.  I have installed everything per NickN advise, and also nHancer exactly as detailed.  That and installing FSX on its own drive helped quite a bit.

My performance is similar (not quite but almost) to these vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PGmbF4YlKM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkbPalZgKPs

If you watch those carefully you will see even they are not 100% stutter free, and they are using payware textures, while I'm still using default fsx ones. 

I have my rig oc'd with HT/sidestep technology disabled, and BLCK set to 180.  Everything else is AUTO that is a pretty simple OC.  You can also use 170 or 167.  I have a nice, and relatively inexpensive GeminII S cooler (it has a nice copper base and pipes) with two 92mm fans on it.  My i7 tops out at 55C in a very well ventilated case.

The other issue, as mentioned, is your vid card.  Again I did a lot of research and reading articles about 295 it seems that model (or at least some of them) has "power saving" built into it.  This is all nice and well if you are a regular user, but probably not so great for FSX use.  Can you exchange that card?  Wouldn't it be nice if you could and everything worked?  U want a vid card with one core and 1GB memory.  That's something that needs looking into as well.

Hope this helps.  I would start with updating BIOs, see if that helps.  If not, I'd start looking for another drive or two.  They do not have to be raptor drives. If you do this it will necessarily require re-installing windows/drivers, but this is not a bad thing.  Do you have a friend/relative that is more adept at computers that could help you?  After you get that setup then start oc if you wish.
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Re: FSX does not run properly on GTX295, i7 2,6gh, 6GB RAM

Postby Tomaz » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:07 am

Putting FSX on it's own drive really makes a difference... I wonder if putting FSX on it's own drive and putting big addons (FSGlobal, REX, ...) on yet another drive makes ANY difference? (C: OS, D: FSX, E: Addons)
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