Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

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Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby raptorx » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:04 pm

Is it as hard in real-life flying to maintain a close distance & speed to another aircraft as it is in FSX?  I play around with my AI aircraft and the F-16 or P-51 and it's next to impossible to stay close for any period of time without falling behind, overtaking, or (gulp) collisions.

Does FSX exaggerate the inertia/momentum of the aircraft or is formation flying really that hard?

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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Ospreyluvr » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:56 pm

I personally think that FSX does a great job of simulating flying in formation.
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Mobius » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:00 pm

One thing that makes it a little different (in my opinion) is the time delay between moving the controller and the sim reacting.  Also, low frame rates can make small, precise control inputs difficult.  Still, formation flying is one of the most challenging aspects of flying, so don't expect it to be easy.
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:05 pm

I agree...  Formation flying in MSFS, is pretty realistic.

I'll post a link (and accompanying story) to a very short video, when it clears the Simteevee censors  8-)
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby raptorx » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:56 pm

Thanks for the replies! :)

I was hoping it really was that hard-that's the challenge.  As long as FSX is getting it right and realistic.  I only have AI to fly with so I don't know what another player would be like.

My dad has FSX and I wonder how hard it would be to set up a link.

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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:06 pm

You can bypass the Gamespy mess, and just do a "LAN" game.. connect to each other by IP address.

Then, you can fly in formation, or even share a cockpit and take turns flying the same airplane, while the other watches
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby raptorx » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:26 pm

Thanks.
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:51 pm

You still both have to have the same plane.. it's no different than GameSpy..

I'm not sure about Nick's list..he'll have to answer that. The only issues I've seen are with routers and firewalls. Dealing with those is a case-by-case thing..  We always just disable all firewalls, and bypass all routers.
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Bob70 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:23 pm

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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:39 pm

I'm not going to swear to anything.. regarding YOUR security..

But if it's just you two connected.. no browser opened.. you shouldn't catch a bug..  

As far as hackers searching for IPs ?  Who knows ?  I know that I can't "hack" into my own computers on a home network, unless I set them up to talk to each other...  but i'm no expert, either.
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Bob70 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:55 pm

[quote]I'm not going to swear to anything.. regarding YOUR security..

But if it's just you two connected.. no browser opened.. you shouldn't catch a bug..
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:08 pm

[quote][quote]I'm not going to swear to anything.. regarding YOUR security..

But if it's just you two connected.. no browser opened.. you shouldn't catch a bug..
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby dmdragon » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:16 am

(Accurate) Formation flying is extremely challenging in real life as it is in the game, but although flight simulator is as real as it gets unfortunately something such as formation flying cannot be faithfully reproduced in a pc sim as there are things in real life that can't be recreated or substituted;

A quick glace over ones shoulder or watching something out of the corner of your eye while you focus on something else as you would in real life is just something you can
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:10 am

[quote](Accurate) Formation flying is extremely challenging in real life as it is in the game, but although flight simulator is as real as it gets unfortunately something such as formation flying cannot be faithfully reproduced in a pc sim as there are things in real life that can't be recreated or substituted;

A quick glace over ones shoulder or watching something out of the corner of your eye while you focus on something else as you would in real life is just something you can
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Re: Formation Flying as Hard in Real Life?

Postby DaveSims » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:39 am

I do find formation flying in the sim a bit harder than real life, mainly due to the limitations of any simulation.  In real life you can feel what your aircraft is doing better and see more of what is going on at once.  Plus you usually have communication with the leader so you know what to expect him to do.
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