How to cross the Atlantic Ocean

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Hi all,

I flew Trans Atlantic many years ago with TWA and the suggestions are correct.

I flew transatlantic yesterday. What did you fly with TWA?

[Brett_Henderson]

Of course.. the

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[quote]Of course.. the

[Brett_Henderson]

The joys of the virtual world provided by MSFS!  Just turn of the headwinds and marginal weather at the destination!  

Or..  start the sim at you departure airport.. then just use "Go to Airport", in the pull-down menu...  *poof*  you're there.

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[quote][quote]The joys of the virtual world provided by MSFS!

[BAW0343]

Sorry, that was a beginner story, not meant to be advice.

Sorry for the rant then! I just misunderstood what you were saying  ;)

[wsciutti]

C,

I flew 707 and 727 with TWA as an FE, kept getting furloughed.
Best seat in the house, especially the JKF - London route. 52s before that in 'Nam.

Finished with 20+ years as Oracle developer/DBA, now fly an AA1A.

Jack

[ShaneG_old]

For an alternative, there is the 'White Dove'  freeware download that comes complete with star navigation devices for recreating this planes original attempt at the trans-Atlantic crossing before Lindeberg pulled it off. Might take around 30hours, but it should have plenty of fuel. And for what it's worth, the copilot is carrying a map if you need it.

[Meck]

lol

ok, I'm going to skip work tomorrow and have a good book; let's see if I get the lady over to big pond...   8-)

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And for what it's worth, the copilot is carrying a map if you need it.

Can you afford the extra weight (the co-pilot, not the map!)?

I flew 707 and 727 with TWA as an FE, kept getting furloughed.
Best seat in the house, especially the JKF - London route. 52s before that in 'Nam.

Cool. I suppose the only 707's doing the crossing now are those in various guises of USAF service.

[Flying Mouse]

I don't fly the tubes but I would guess it is safe to say that the difference in IAS and TAS might be your problem.

Leveling off at 35 000 feet and maintaing 250 IAS. Anything above 250 IAS is too fast.

Ofcourse you will not be pushing 250 knots but you will be much faster as air density at altitudes affect the Pitot.

When I am flying with small props and focus on economy flight I find it appropriate to fly the correct speed (be aware of TAS) and set the trim correctly.

Donno how it works with the tubes but condition levers and prop controll (RPM and Manifold preasures) set correctly also enhances fuel life in a prop plane.

Someone may correct me if I am wrong  :)

Goodluck in crossing the big water

[OVERLORD_CHRIS]

well since I fly the 747's a lot, along with the C-5 and An-124, I know the 747 has great range as long as you go up high cruise at a decent speed. The -200 series go pretty far but the better fuel efficient -400 go way further.

Down load the Air Force 1 model and go from KCHS to EDDF at 40,000ft with about 1500-1800ft climb rate. 220,000lbs(110tons) should get you plenty far, with enough left over to alter your landing when you reach main land Europe.

[Meck]

That's what I'm trying atm

[BAW0343]

Well there may be a few things wrong. For a climb to 30.000 ft flaps should be full up, then climb speed should be around 300 KIAS.

The flaps will add drag on the aircraft by Increasing lift and should be fully retracted for climb. Then if you set the Mach for .58 is very possible the AP didn't adjust for the increase in altitude and never changed the throttle settings.

For example If I set my speed to 250 kias by maintaining .58 mach and I increase in altitude, that Mach number will indicate different speeds as you climb. Because mach is referring to speed of sound and the speed of sound changes with the density, or altitude you can't set it and leave it alone as you climb. Since I assume you never reset the autothrottle setting, Mach .58 slowly became your stall speed. Also the added drag of the flaps didn't help your case.

I got the speed and Flap setting info from http://freechecklists.net/simchecklists.asp

The info above may not be correct and is just my assumption. My only experience I have is flying airliners myself in FS and witnessing the mach number change value, and about a semesters worth of Private Pilot ground school.

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[quote]That's what I'm trying atm