Using ILS

[carter43]

Okay so, I'm trying to learn how to use the ILS on a video on youtube called "Stowe's ILS Tutorial Video" and there are a couple of things he didn't answer on the video. Why do you have to punch in the numbers for your heading, speed, altitude if your already going to do all of it yourself. And after watching several ILS tutorial videos, are you really flying the plane or just pushing some buttons in and the plane flys itself?


Another thing, what's this flight academy all about and how do I go to it?

[SuperMonkey]

well i think the video u saw is how to do auto pilot landing with ILS
thats why he punch in all the alt,heading, etcs

[carter43]

what's the point of punching all the crap in, is there a way to get it to do it automatically? By that I mean say you put 250 knots on the speed, is there a button that makes it reach the speed without you on the controls?

[C]

what's the point of punching all the crap in, is there a way to get it to do it automatically? By that I mean say you put 250 knots on the speed, is there a button that makes it reach the speed without you on the controls?

To get to the ILS you'll first need to fly a published arrival procedure (STAR) or receive vectors to the ILS "localiser" (put simply, the left/right signal of the ILS). To do this ATC or the STAR plate will give you a heading and altitude to fly, and often a speed. All these are dialled into the autopilot.

Once "on" the localiser, with an appropriate mode selected the autopilot will make heading corrections to stay on the centre of the ILS "beam", still at the altitude and speed dialled into the autopilot. Once the aircraft reaches the ILS "Glidepath" (the vertical beam of the ILS) the height lock of the autopilot will disengage, and the autopilot will fly the aircraft down the ILS, with speed changed as required using the autothrottle.

So essentially, all the numbers you see are the pilots directing the autopilot to get to the ILS in the first place.

[BFMF]

I think you're trying to jump into instrument flying before trying to learn the basics first....

[Brett_Henderson]

[quote]I think you're trying to jump into instrument flying before trying to learn the basics first....

[BFMF]

[quote][quote]I think you're trying to jump into instrument flying before trying to learn the basics first....

[Emmeth]

Inside this forum I discovered there are several kind , expert and professional men who will give you lot of very precious suggestions.

I'm a rookie of FSX but I have discovered as well that the ATC is bugged and several times during ILS approach it will kick you everywhere but where you want to land therefore my humble suggestion is to perform ILS approach without listening to the tower and your life will be easier.

The default M$ ATC always tells you to follow IFR approaches that force you to miss the landing confirmed ( paradox ) by them with handoffs instructions. The default M$ ATC is a clown joke, trust me. Internet, I discovered, is full of insults on FSX default ATC. Even on Ground it is ridicolous , sometimes it force 747s to stop taxi to let a tiny private van to pass.... not to mention when you spot in internet ILS approaches flight analisys driven by the tower

[5hredder]

what's the point of punching all the crap in, is there a way to get it to do it automatically? By that I mean say you put 250 knots on the speed, is there a button that makes it reach the speed without you on the controls?

bro, you have to punch in the info so that the on board computers will know what you want.

like you said, if you want the plane to hold 250 knots for you, you have to switch on the autothrottle button and then engage the speed hold switch (or press ctrl+R) and punch in 250 knots.

ILS approaches are suprisingly very easy. once you get instructions from the ATC to maintain a certain altitute and speed, then punch in the CRS and ILS freq into the NAV1 Radio. you should then start hearing beeping signals (morse code). then turn on the autopilot approach mode (APP or ctrl+A). then the plane should start turning by itself and will align itself up with the runway and follow the glideslope down.

once you reach decision height, you disengage autopilot and then touch the bird down manually

hope this helped.

cheers

[TSC.]

what's the point of punching all the crap in, is there a way to get it to do it automatically?

The button says 'Automatic Pilot', not 'Mind Reader'.



Have a look here BTW, it's an excellent tutorial on radio navigation & will give an excellent grounding for ILS procedures: http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/index.htm

TSC.

[Emmeth]

As described it may seems a trivial joke, and for the sake of god, it is.

The problem is the ATC, as I already said ; only the practice will let you know what I mean. Wanna try ? Pick up a whatever jet and try to land it on bigger hubs then around 50-60 nm away the airport try to follow the ATC

[reider]

I really cannot understand why you purport to have so many ATC problems.  I have over 1100 hours in, landing day and night and very little problem.  Yes, its not perfect but nowhere near as bad as you`re making out.  I can take off knowing the ATC will get me from A to B with no worries whatsoever.  Sure you`re setting the frequencies when asked to do so?  Thats what strikes me, for you to have so many problems of that sort.

Reider

[Emmeth]

[quote]I really cannot understand why you purport to have so many ATC problems.

[C]

what's the point of punching all the crap in, is there a way to get it to do it automatically?

The button says 'Automatic Pilot', not 'Mind Reader'.

Quite! An old saying about machinery and computers can be used:

"Put s*** in, you get s*** out!". You have to tell it accurately what to do, and it'll then do it for you.

[carter43]

Sorry guys, I disovered that I know how to use the autopliot, it's just that something was wrong with my 737 and it wasn't working properly. Well now that it is working I'm using it fine. Thanks anyways.