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Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby FooFighters » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:35 pm

Hi,

I've searched everywhere on the net, but still I cannot fix my problem.

The problem started after some PC changes.. mainly changing from CRT to 22"TFT monitor (prolite E2202WS).

This is my system..
Windows XP SP2
AMD 6000+ processor
GA-MA55-S3 motherboard
4GB DDR2 (only 3 is used because of WIN XP)
XFX-8800 GTS 320mb graphic card.

FSX runs pretty well with some tweaks (FSX.cfg).
I use several mods like level D's 767, GEX, FEX, Nicks sunfix and my Traffic X (with FS2004 AI aircraft for better looks).

Now my problem.. distance textures starts shimmering and moving.. usualy only the horizontal textures.
This happens with runways, buildings, airplanes etc..
I hope this picture will clarify it a bit, check the runway that is the furthest away. If you look closely you see that the linns are jagged.

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I already tried Nhancer, but no joy..
I used several FSX settings I found on the net.. but the problem is still here..

Hope someone can help...

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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby SubZer0 » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:45 pm

Did you follow Nick's steps on installing and setting up nHancer?

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 959973/5#5
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby Anxyous » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:05 pm

It looks like it, but you're sure you got anti-aliasing checked right?

Personally, I don't see how you can complain about that quality  ;D
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby FooFighters » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:32 pm

Did you follow Nick's steps on installing and setting up nHancer?

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 959973/5#5


Yes, that was my guidance  :)
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby FooFighters » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:36 pm

[quote]It looks like it, but you're sure you got anti-aliasing checked right?

Personally, I don't see how you can complain about that quality
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby SubZer0 » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:51 pm

[quote][quote]It looks like it, but you're sure you got anti-aliasing checked right?

Personally, I don't see how you can complain about that quality
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby FooFighters » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:27 am

[quote][quote][quote]It looks like it, but you're sure you got anti-aliasing checked right?

Personally, I don't see how you can complain about that quality
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby macca22au » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:45 am

The filtering should be trilinear, and marked 16x in nHancer.

Anti-aliasing should be done on nHancer, Composite 8x if your rig will stand it, 4x if not.

Negative LOD Clamp must be on (an easy one to forget and it can do a lot for shimmers.

Global textures high.

Through NVidia control panel, make sure everything is marked the same.
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby Daube » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:25 am

Yes from what I see in this first screenshot:
- the AA is not high enough
- the AF is not high enough

You said that you followed the recommendation from NickN for the NHancer settings ? With such a big monitor, you should consider pushing the video card settings a bit higher, cause the little defaults become more visible on such a big picture.
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby FooFighters » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:55 am

The filtering should be trilinear, and marked 16x in nHancer.
AF is set to 16x

Anti-aliasing should be done on nHancer, Composite 8x if your rig will stand it, 4x if not.
AA is set to 8S

Negative LOD Clamp must be on (an easy one to forget and it can do a lot for shimmers.
It's on clamp

Global textures high.
It is

Through NVidia control panel, make sure everything is marked the same.
Never checked this, will look in it tonight.


I thing I also forgot to mention is that when I stop a flight.
Go back to main screen AA is gone.
When I complete shut FSX and restart it's oke.
(Enhance ingame setting is disabled in nhancer)
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby FooFighters » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:57 am

Yes from what I see in this first screenshot:
- the AA is not high enough
- the AF is not high enough

You said that you followed the recommendation from NickN for the NHancer settings ? With such a big monitor, you should consider pushing the video card settings a bit higher, cause the little defaults become more visible on such a big picture.


Correct, I followed his instructions.
I have AA on 8S multisampling, AF 16x

What shoud I set higher then ?

p.s. thanks guys for the help so far  :)
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby NickN » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:58 am

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Correct, I followed his instructions.
I have AA on 8S multisampling, AF 16x

What shoud I set higher then ?

p.s. thanks guys for the help so far
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby FooFighters » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:11 pm

Hi Nick,

I tried all your settings, but no joy..

The AA was on combined not multisampling.. my mistake.

I changed both profiles like you wrote.
I also changed the nvidia setting but the problem stays..

The only difference is that I use the 175.16 drivers.
But before this one I also tried the 174.74 beta driver with the same result.
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby NickN » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:43 pm

I said not to touch the Nv settings or they will overrride Nhancer... set Nhancer back up and continue below


If you are sure a driver change nets the same result then I would be looking at the monitor/cable/monitor settings

If it has a digital port, you must make sure you not only have a digital monitor cable, but the right digital cable. Is it the one that came with the monitor and is it indeed digital?

if you are sure the cable is correct then it could be the monitor itself is just poor quality. Part of this is you are going from CRT to LCD. There is going to be some differences since a CRT can have a high refresh rate and LCD tops out at 60-75

Are you running the native resolution in both Windows and FSX? 1680 x 1050 x 32 is what the monitor is desiged for

are you running the correct setting WideViewAspect=True in the FSX.cfg file?

Short of a problem with DX9 or system files.. that is everything I can think of
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Re: Horizontal jagges in FSX

Postby FooFighters » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:59 pm

The Nhancer settings are oke..
I must say that enabling super transparancy makes my game a bit better and sharper.
The wideviewaspect is set to true

next step.. I have an IIyama Prolite E2202WSV.

The monitor has a d-sub connector, so I use a dvi-d / d-sub connector to connect it to my GPU. The cable was delivered with the monitor.
The connector with my GPU.

Could this connector be the problem ?
My monitor has a refresh rate of 60Hz (my old CRT 100Hz)
I use 1680*1050 32bits in FSX
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