For Everyone Having DX10 and DX9 SP2 Problems

[NickN]

I can now confirm that the majority of reported issues are completely NVIDIA related.

Santa came a little early this year and this week I received a card for review and testing. This card will not be available until after mid to late January and I can not divulge details about it, however it is NOT made by Nvidia.

The following issues do not exist using that card:

Flashing textures
Black flashing spikes
Flickering taxiways/fences and textures
Loss of lights or boxes appearing instead of lights
Loss of progressive taxi arrows
Crash when accessing the menus
Screen WHITEOUT or Washout
Intermittent poor performance under certain conditions



I suggest everyone who owns a Nvidia card realize your problems are not FSX programming but the result of a company that pushed a poorly designed core on the market too soon, and now can

[NickN]

The last time I posted detailed information about a test card I got myself into some hot water so there will be no further info about it.


I will tell you it consumes less power, makes significantly less noise and from what I understand will be priced right compared to what you get, which is much less than the extortion Nvidia placed on the market for sub-standard product in the last year because they had no competition or anything to compare it with.

The 8800 ran great frames and delivered performance but when the games coded for the new format start hitting the streets, the defects become obvious.

Now, also keep in mind the flip side of this is that without the hardware being on the market, the games would not have been written or coded for it so although I am not real impressed with Nvidia the lesser of 2 evils required hardware get released from both the Nv and ATi camps (no matter the condition) in order to get the ball rolling. Unfortunately those who bought the technology -may- need to upgrade if they can not fix the issues in driver code.


Nvidia will be releasing some of their new products next month as well and I can not say if they fixed their electronics or not however I can not believe they would release the same garbage twice, especially if ATi is not suffering with the same issues.

[alrot]

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[J.]

hmm interesting reading, and i have had similar suspisions about Nvidia's 8XXX series cards since they came and out with ATI trailing almost a year behind.

however, i have an 8800GT sat in a box for Christmas so I'm sticking Nvidia for a while longer, hopefully Nvidia's 9 series will have the code bugs ironed out as they have already been through 2 bugged chipsets, so lets hope the third is decent.

[SubZer0]

Nick, is it possible to say whether it's PCI Express x16 or 2.0?

I want to upgrade video cards when these new ones come out, but idk if I'll need a new motherboard as well. Probably a new power supply too (I doubt 500w will cut it).

Look at my signature for my specs.

[NickN]

Yes and yes

[NickN]

Spam Post but also goes with this thread...



And that does not mean the 8000 series or other Nvidia cards are bad, it means people are now informed and if they make the decision to purchase the card, or, come into the forum and post FSX or SP2 is causing them trouble and complain about it, they now know why and who to go talk to about it in order to get it fixed, and it isn't Aces or MS.

[NickN]

[quote]Much appreciated info Nick. 2008 is going to be a good year.

[Fr. Bill]

I can now confirm that the majority of reported issues are completely NVIDIA related.

Nick, I can confirm that from here as well. What's amazing to me is that even with ATI's earlier DX10 cards (the HD2400 Pro 256MB for example), FSX+SP2 runs in DX10 preview mode with absolutely zero graphic anamolies...

Granted, my new Core 2 Q6600 is now faster than the video card, but it still pumps out an amazing 20-30 fps even in urban areas not known for being frame rate friendly.

[SubZer0]

I can now confirm that the majority of reported issues are completely NVIDIA related.

Nick, I can confirm that from here as well. What's amazing to me is that even with ATI's earlier DX10 cards (the HD2400 Pro 256MB for example), FSX+SP2 runs in DX10 preview mode with absolutely zero graphic anamolies...

Granted, my new Core 2 Q6600 is now faster than the video card, but it still pumps out an amazing 20-30 fps even in urban areas not known for being frame rate friendly.

I can't wait to get my Q6700. I'm going up from an AMD X2 4200+. It's lasted me a year and I was proud of and happy with what it was able to pump out for me. Still, I'd rather have an Intel, and now I finally will  ;D

[NickN]

I can now confirm that the majority of reported issues are completely NVIDIA related.

Nick, I can confirm that from here as well. What's amazing to me is that even with ATI's earlier DX10 cards (the HD2400 Pro 256MB for example), FSX+SP2 runs in DX10 preview mode with absolutely zero graphic anamolies...

Granted, my new Core 2 Q6600 is now faster than the video card, but it still pumps out an amazing 20-30 fps even in urban areas not known for being frame rate friendly.

Bill

If you are observing the same results then there is no question as to the source of the errors. I have confirmed the list of

[reider]

I can now confirm that the majority of reported issues are completely NVIDIA related.

Nick, I can confirm that from here as well. What's amazing to me is that even with ATI's earlier DX10 cards (the HD2400 Pro 256MB for example), FSX+SP2 runs in DX10 preview mode with absolutely zero graphic anamolies...

Granted, my new Core 2 Q6600 is now faster than the video card, but it still pumps out an amazing 20-30 fps even in urban areas not known for being frame rate friendly.

Do you have any problem with the vsync being turned off?  Or is this just an nVidia problem only?  I heard that in DX10 you cannot force it on when you need to and that can be a problem for some.  I can do it in DX9 but have no need to this time around, though I am just trying a different driver so things could change once again.....  ;)

Reider

[NickN]

I run drivers with Vsync "always on" in FSX because I do not run a frame rate of over 60. Setting to 'unlimited' simply restricts the frame rate to 60 and the combination does not cause any performance issues. Most will lock at 24 so setting Vsync ON in the drivers will not have any effect other than to sync/smooth the image. I did not notice any tearing and the sim responed perfectly.

I am not home right now so I am unable to look at it again right at the moment.

[Fr. Bill]

[quote]
Do you have any problem with the vsync being turned off?

[Flight Ace]

[quote]
I can now confirm that the majority of reported issues are completely NVIDIA related.

Santa came a little early this year and this week I received a card for review and testing. This card will not be available until after mid to late January and I can not divulge details about it, however it is NOT made by Nvidia.

The following issues do not exist using that card:

Flashing textures
Black flashing spikes
Flickering taxiways/fences and textures
Loss of lights or boxes appearing instead of lights
Loss of progressive taxi arrows
Crash when accessing the menus
Screen WHITEOUT or Washout
Intermittent poor performance under certain conditions



I suggest everyone who owns a Nvidia card realize your problems are not FSX programming but the result of a company that pushed a poorly designed core on the market too soon, and now can