A plea to Aces/Microsoft

[Fly2e]

Kind of like that sneaky squirrel!

[Brett_Henderson]

I don't think any of us are disagreeing with the others... I don't think Krigl is wrong, as in what he's saying is false, or un-true.

[NickN]

[quote]I'll just say this:

My old system (3.5 years old):

Athlon 64 3400+
nVidia 6800 GT 256MB
2GB DDR400 RAM
2x 250GB HDs in RAID 0
Audigy 4 Sound
Windows XP

With this, I would get ~12 FPS in FSX on average, ranging from 40-50 over the ocean to 2 in a city on medium to medium high settings.

My new system (2 weeks old):

Q6600 Quad Core
Factory Superclocked nVidia 8800GTX (768 MB)
4GB DDR800 RAM
2x 320GB HDs in RAID 0
X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound
Windows Vista 64-bit

With this, I get ~45 FPS on average, dropping to ~20 in big cities with all settings on very high except for light bloom, and autogen turned down to normal and very dense in DX9.

[NickN]

I have only one other thing to say... you cant sit there and dev an engine to do one thing and then re-write the engine again so when hardware is around next year the sim gets a boost.. its an ALL or NOTHING write till the next version. They need years to dev and write a new version, not months. They can not spend time re-deving for people who cant afford the hardware... the title would cost a fortune and every patch would cost money too.


Aces does more than MSFS but too many people think they are there working on MSFS exclusively. There are only so many hours in a day and only so many people/contractors the project can budget for.

There is no such thing as dev 1/3rd now, 1/3rd next year and 1/3rd the following.. They must see a point where they wish to be, set goals and try to meet them. Along the line things get added or cut but once its done, its done. With the extensive SP work in FSX we are lucky to even see a DX10 preview however there was good reason to make sure the initial dev work was accomplished as it will go toward future investments.

[Mobius]

I have FEX, and that fix is supposed to be in the patch for FEX, but I can't get the patch to work correctly.  This is the error I get when I try to fix it:

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1194237714

I guess I should do what they say and contact support.

[Fly2e]

It is killing me that I do not go right out and build a new machine.
Really trying to hold off for as long as possible until all is ironed out.

When FS9 came out there were no issues. That was the entire kit & kaboodle.
Your machine could fly FS9 maxxed or it couldn't.
If it couldn't you went out and built a new machine as it worked and that was the end of it.

With all the advances and upgrades & technology that is due to come out for FSX, I am sitting on the sidelines trying to keep this money in my wallet!

[NickN]

[quote]I have FEX, and that fix is supposed to be in the patch for FEX, but I can't get the patch to work correctly.

[Camel_Moe]

[quote]

I want to launch myself in a rocket into orbit but I don

[Solid]

[quote]But if MS developed for the shorter term and focused more on adding content, changing stuff that can be fixed without changing the engine so drastically in one go, development wouldn't cost so much...having seen the latest news you posted I really suspect that with FSX we are all beta testers for their new ESP they're producing... and paying for the priviledge...

Argh! I feel like Leiutenant (can't spell that) Columbo. 'Just one more thing'

[NickN]

oh geezzz

ESP will come in Version 1 and Version 2

For god sakes get off the corporate conspiracy plan

It has absolutely nothing to do with using us. Read the thread, unless you consider FS8-FS9 to be a beta test your comments are off the wall too

[Fly2e]

[quote]You are so right again..... "that with FSX we are all beta testers for their new ESP they're producing... and paying for the priviledge..."....
Some people simply do not admit it.....anyway we are, in a way enjoying it, and in some ways...darn mad....but that

[Hagar]

[quote]Above post........
Delete or do not delete....

[Fly2e]

It is not that I do not agree with them Doug, I am trying to keep the posts that have nothing to do with what is being discussed, as it skates a fine line with people who want to maturity discuss this or who want to trash MS about FSX.

Case closed!

If people find this offensive then don't post in the thread.
I hear all the time, "I stay out of the FSX forums as they are aggressive".

Nothing aggressive hear except posts that have nothing to do with what is being discussed, which is basically zero!

Doug I am not going there as then this thread would become what I try to avoid.

[pete]

If you are confident in your case you should encourage questions & (positive) criticism as it's always a good thing to be able to know the rumblings.

However at the same time threads should be adhered to & not used as soap boxes.  :)

It's very difficult to have these kind of threads without the thing going into a big bashing session - but it's much more constructive if we try to get the message accross.

The message being - from what I read - make FS as user friendly as possible at the same time respecting the ambition to push the edge.

Frankly I have little time for people who aren't prepared to update their PC's every couple of years in this day & age. Don't upgrade your hardware - stick with the appropriate software & stop complaining.

My concern with the future of FS is the ability of FREEWARE developers to create. Without the mass interest they help generate FS almost certainly wouldn't even exist or if it did it would be a minority interest. Most of the payware today is created by once well known freeware developers. Freeware is THE absolute important factor on the popularity of the FS series. Has been. Will be. If we are down to payware add-ons mainly - the vast majority of followers will drift away.

[NickN]

That concern is very legitimate Pete and given the direction MS is taking with licensing the engine technology, it would be nice to get more in-depth information about what is coming. Phil said he would post more as it unfolds. Right now Trains is the focus and then on to FS11 and ESPv2

I can